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Old 07-28-2006, 03:07 PM   #31
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Ive been lifting regularly since 03, so around 2.5-3 years now. Mainly focusing on strength and the big 3 lifts for football training as a lineman, but used to use a 5x5 program and had GREAT results from it. Currently using a 4 day per week program with upper and lower body splits.

Also I am not using sizeon, I am just using straight creatine gluconate.
 
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I thought I would add my entirely anecdotal experience to this discourse. About a week ago I started dosing Size-On immediately pre-WO and thus far I am fairly impressed. Though I am currently on a cycle of androgens I have been on it long enough to differentiate the effects of the Test alone vs. Test + Size On. I feel the added muscular endurance during my workouts and a slight decrease in recovery time, both between sets and sessions. However, I should state that this could very well be the gentle progression of the Testosterone, but I am confident the Size On is having a measurable effect.
 



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Old 07-28-2006, 07:51 PM   #33
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I thought I would add my entirely anecdotal experience to this discourse. About a week ago I started dosing Size-On immediately pre-WO and thus far I am fairly impressed. Though I am currently on a cycle of androgens I have been on it long enough to differentiate the effects of the Test alone vs. Test + Size On. I feel the added muscular endurance during my workouts and a slight decrease in recovery time, both between sets and sessions. However, I should state that this could very well be the gentle progression of the Testosterone, but I am confident the Size On is having a measurable effect.
That's good bro. I might get some... Still debating..lol
 



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That's good bro. I might get some... Still debating..lol
Meh, it was free for me so why not. To me, the concept of bonding the salt based Creatine Ion to a glucose ion seems sound in terms of initial absorption, but in terms of raised mitochondrial response...not to sold on that.
 



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Old 07-28-2006, 08:00 PM   #35
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Meh, it was free for me so why not. To me, the concept of bonding the salt based Creatine Ion to a glucose ion seems sound in terms of initial absorption, but in terms of raised mitochondrial response...not to sold on that.
Free? I would try anything for free..haha but yeah, I don't think the small leftover of glucose will make a difference. Maybe the alcohool leftover from CEE reduced a little the effectiveness, but I guess it's working pretty good so far.
 



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I took sizeon a couple months back and ran it for about 4 weeks. It was the best creatine product I have ever tried. My lifts steadily increased, I got excellent pumps and vascularity, and recovery was at an all time high. Ive been lifting for about 3 years. This and man clout are the two best creatine products imo. I have never seen any results on cee, but on sizeon I saw some dramatic increases in strength and muscle fullness.
 
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I have some 200 grams of Creatine Gluconate in the mail, on the way, to my house right now. ill be replacing Creatine Gluconate with creatine mono. Also im on a cut - you can see my pictures in PICs=- my quest for a sixpack. anyways ive been losing steady and im on a new program- max-ot. Most of my lifts have actually gone up since starting max-ot. im also taking nac-which i think work well, aakg, taurine, ala, and alcar. Now when i start Creatine Gluconate we will see how strength increases. If it works good then itll show because im giving this cutting diet all ive got.

Ill keep the thread posted about strength increases. also you can look at my quest for a sixpack as i post my numbers on lifts.
 
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also how much is needed 5 grams right?
 
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also how much is needed 5 grams right?
Haven't tried it, but it should be similar to CEE, so only 3g is needed for most.
 



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I've been on Cg for about two weeks now, strength is for sure up, lastnight on Mil Press I put 4x45's on the bar and got 7,6,8 reps vs 3 weeks ago I could only do 6 reps had to drop the weight, 2 weeks ago, couldn't get 1 rep, last week couldn't get it pressed, each of those times I had to drop weight down to 185 to continue and had solid 8's there. I don't think all the strength is Cg, started androgel about the sametime, so maybe more that...I'm also on very low carb right now, with carb up only 1 meal every 14 days.

Sidenote: Creatine Gluconate taste good, I dump it in my mouth and wash it down, I really like the taste...
 
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I've been on Cg for about two weeks now, strength is for sure up, lastnight on Mil Press I put 4x45's on the bar and got 7,6,8 reps vs 3 weeks ago I could only do 6 reps had to drop the weight, 2 weeks ago, couldn't get 1 rep, last week couldn't get it pressed, each of those times I had to drop weight down to 185 to continue and had solid 8's there. I don't think all the strength is Cg, started androgel about the sametime, so maybe more that...I'm also on very low carb right now, with carb up only 1 meal every 14 days.

Sidenote: Creatine Gluconate taste good, I dump it in my mouth and wash it down, I really like the taste...
Great to have some feedback on it Thanks
 



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I've been on Cg for about two weeks now, strength is for sure up, lastnight on Mil Press I put 4x45's on the bar and got 7,6,8 reps vs 3 weeks ago I could only do 6 reps had to drop the weight, 2 weeks ago, couldn't get 1 rep, last week couldn't get it pressed, each of those times I had to drop weight down to 185 to continue and had solid 8's there. I don't think all the strength is Cg, started androgel about the sametime, so maybe more that...I'm also on very low carb right now, with carb up only 1 meal every 14 days.

Sidenote: Creatine Gluconate taste good, I dump it in my mouth and wash it down, I really like the taste...
What doses do you use? Pre/Post on workout days and once on non work out days?
 
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I've used Sizeon and can say that I couldn't really tell the difference between that and Cell Mass. I think Cell Mass is CEE...However the recovery ability of Sizeon is good in my opinion. Gains wise they seemed fairly even.

I noticed that creatine doesn't really help too much with my strength gains but aids me greatly in recovery.
 
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I'm taking 3g everyday, on workout days 15 min pre, non late afternoon.

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does it really matter if you take it pre -training or des it work as well post-training?
 
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