Sann V12

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  1. Sann V12


    Been hearing really good things about this.. was thinking of trying some.. anyone here try this?


  2. Got to it late, but I think you know what my opinion is. Its definetly worth it.
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  3. Post a link or something, for those of us that don't know

  4. Upon request! Here's 2 of them that got interesting.

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...threadid=65208

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...threadid=72949

    There is a reason why some people don't like it and there posts counts should tell you something.

    I tried Swole and V-12 and I've recieved better results with V-12. Long lasting pumps, increased vascularity, and increase in strenght.

  5. On Bobo's rec alone, I am going to be trying this V12. Looking forward to it and will post my results.
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  6. Sounds good win. Try taking it pre-workout with some form of carb drink....This works best for me.

  7. I just got some.. Im taking it with grape juice... man this stuff is SWEET even with a 16 oz glass its really sweet.. anyway ill post my results in a few days

  8. Yeah it sounds good. I will try after I finish the boatload of creatine I am sitting on.

  9. ok well ive been taking v-12 for a little over 2 weeks now and havent noticed anything really.. no increased pumps no increased vascularity nothing.. i have also tried taking 4 grams of arginine 3 times a day and felt nothing... i havent changed my diet or training.. guess these products just dont have any effect on some people.. i also dont respond to creatine.. i heard people who dont respond to creatine will respond to this.. oh well

  10. I've been using it for about 6 days, no real results yet I guess. I started the day after ending my ONE cycle, regular creatine makes me look like a bubble. I liked swole, so, I figured I'd try this out, better reviews.

  11. So your not swelling up with water like usual?

  12. Nope.

    I'm not sure why, but, I have kept my vascularity since stopping ONE. Could this be from v12? I am not usually vascular at all, and my bf% is a little high for it to be this prevalent. Oh well, I'm not complaining.

  13. Alright I'm thinking about jumping on the bandwagon, and trying this after just blowing right by anything I saw on it for so long. I just got done reading Bobo's 12 page thread @ bb.com, and I have just one question. I have been using Creapure for 7 weeks now. I've tried just about every kind of creatine known, and I have never really gotten much from them. My question is do you think I can get away with staying off the Creapure for just 2 weeks before going with the V12? Before this past cycle of creatine it has been over a year since I have done it.

  14. V-12 is an excellent product IMHO. I've used it with great results......

  15. when u take it did u just do a dose in the morning and one pre workout? or did u take another post workout?? or just take some regular creatine after your workout??

  16. Take it twice a day on workout days, once on non-workout days before or with a meal.


    Spread the doses out by at least 8 hours.


    N'Pursuit, you should be fine. Many non-responders to creatine find that products like V-12 and Swole work. The theory is that these products include pre-cursors to creatine therefore enbaling your own bodies natural creatine production to increase. Many non-responders to creatine do not react well to outside sources of pure creatine so these pre-cursors seem to work. Its theroy as no proof of this has been established but the results from many non-responders point to this being true.
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  17. Well, for me personally, Swole worked better than V-12, but I have a few friends that like V-12 better. V-12 is basically swole with AKG, so maybe that is the reason some seem to like it better. That being said, at the end of this month Swole v.2 will be out and after checking out its ingredients I think hands down it will be better than V-12.

  18. I've been using V-12 for abour 2 weeks now, per Bobo's recommendation I love this stuff, it reminds me of when I first used creatine back in the day, it actually works! I've been more pumped and have actually had a slight increase in some lifts (yes, while cutting, but my cals aren't real low). A+

  19. thought I posted in this thread awhile ago... apparently not, oh well... V-12 is some kickass ****, I had never responded very well to creatine mono, and v12 has been great. definitely worth the coin.

  20. so, most of you are just doin 1 dose on non w/o days and 2 on workout days... i have not seen any of ya post weather or not you are throwing any extra creatine in post work out?

  21. Originally posted by Nicolai
    so, most of you are just doin 1 dose on non w/o days and 2 on workout days... i have not seen any of ya post weather or not you are throwing any extra creatine in post work out?
    yep, one dose in the morning and on workout days one preworkout. That's it for me.

  22. i got a bottle of the orange v-12 im sick of already 2 servings were used if anyone is interested pm me the taste is something i cant take

  23. i hear ya man... if it is anything like cell-techs orange flavor... gah! i would actually gag and **** when trying to down it.

  24. Originally posted by wojo
    i got a bottle of the orange v-12 im sick of already 2 servings were used if anyone is interested pm me the taste is something i cant take
    I think it's great! ... (especially if you've compared it to bung-swole )... bummer. tried it in grape juice once as well, thought it was ****ing awesome... can see where it would be too sweet for people though.

  25. Originally posted by Sir Foxx
    Well, for me personally, Swole worked better than V-12, but I have a few friends that like V-12 better. V-12 is basically swole with AKG, so maybe that is the reason some seem to like it better. That being said, at the end of this month Swole v.2 will be out and after checking out its ingredients I think hands down it will be better than V-12.
    I like to know why you think this. I saw the ingredients. It doesn't look that impressive at all. Looks to me its just to counter V-12 since it seems to be taking some sales away from Swole.

    Only thing I see is they are adding GPA and Taurine. Both components don't represent anything new in terms of performance.
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  26. Like I said before, Swole works better for me than V-12 does. The new formula will be better by adding GPA and taurine. V-12 doesn't have Glucuronolactone which I find to be a very good addition to swoles ingredient list. Its just a personal preference, plus I don't really like SAN because of their Loaded product, which now has GPA, but no creatine in it, which is really dangerous. Heart problems galore down the line. I think SAN is irresponsible.

  27. Originally posted by Sir Foxx
    Like I said before, Swole works better for me than V-12 does. The new formula will be better by adding GPA and taurine. V-12 doesn't have Glucuronolactone which I find to be a very good addition to swoles ingredient list. Its just a personal preference, plus I don't really like SAN because of their Loaded product, which now has GPA, but no creatine in it, which is really dangerous. Heart problems galore down the line. I think SAN is irresponsible.
    Umm...I don't think so. Derek went off about people using glycocyamine without a methylating agent yet isomatrix doesn't have one. Syntrax representatives have been caugh over at bb.com posting under several names with the same IP badmouthing V-12 saying it didn't work at all. He calimed that V-12 didn't have a methylating agent but it has Betaine also known as Tri-Methylglycine.

    "Cause your daily protein consists of choline which is known to be a supplemental methyl donor. For those still concerned include 1.5 grams of betaine (and this would be the right ratio BTW) to your diet which I believe is not necessary as test subject experimented with doses as high as 5grams of glycocyamine per day for 6 weeks straight. "

    I guess thats why glycocyamine is included in Isomatrix. They badmouthed SAN because of one issue and if your familiar with the company you would know. I'm not brining up names. After all is said and done, its Syntrax who appears to be irresponsible. I have studies for the above comments too, but I don't think we need to get into this. I already have months ago.


    Loaded contained GPA now all of sudden Syntrax is using it. Taurine is already in V-12 and now Syntrax is using it. Loaded contained R-LA and now Syntrax released an R-LA product. You tell me. If your concerned about the long term use, cycle it like both products recommend and you won't have problems. I think both companies have good products but your comment on reputation is unfounded considering many circumstances.
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  28. actually bobo ur dead wrong about people in syntrax posting over at bb.com ,dont believe me ask ryan,.....i too prefer swole over v-12 but some like chocolate other vanilla and some strawberry.. nag was ripped off by san from syntrax and theres a lawsuit pending because of it.(believe me i am familar with the name u were going to drop hes a good guy ).isomatrix is being reformulated to remove the glyco just a fyi....

  29. Are you telling me Bobo that GPA doesn't displace creatine in the muscle? Cause I've read the studies that show that it does. I will find them and post them. How do you think your heart is going to react once the creatine is gone or severly depleted? Hey if you feel fine about, more power to you, but I will refrain from using their products. All SAN had to do with Loaded, is either add a little creatine to it or just put on the bottle to take some with it. Simple.

  30. Sure post them. Then post something telling me it will do more than what glycocyamine.
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