I just got my Superdrol. Going to start on Monday...I have my plan (dosages per week/month), PCT and Liver support covered plus Hawthorn Berry just in case BP spikes. Anything else I might need to know before I start?

I would start the Hawthorn right away. If your BP rises, the hawthorn isnt going to decrease it right away, it takes some time to actually kick in. Also get some celery seed for BP. You should also look into getting some red yeast rice and some CoQ10 as well.

Do you have Taurine and Potassium for back pumps? Those were killer for some including me!

I have taurine but I completely forgot about the potassium? Thanks. Also what does CoQ10 do/help?

Originally Posted by halljo

I have taurine but I completely forgot about the potassium? Thanks. Also what does CoQ10 do/help?

Helps get rid of free radicals in the body. Its also very good for you heart.

Make sure you have enough SERM just in case gyno flares up. Also, if you're prone to MPB, I hope you are prepped.

Good luck!

Do you have a multi-vit like NOW's 'Adam' multi on cycle? I'd also recommend adding Policosanol for lipid & cardiovascular health along side red yeast rice +coQ10. Maybe caffeine if lethagy sets in. Best of luck!

Appreciate all the help and information. Looks like I need to go buy some more stuff. Thanks to all.

Just my $0.02 but I put this together over the past month or so in prep for my (first ever) sd cycle. I took most of the info and advice from Dr. D on this.

I think it is recommended to pre-load the support supps at least a week to ten days prior to your cycle:


Preloaded, throughout cycle and PCT (Supp - Benefit - dosage):

Red Yeast Rice - Cholesterol - 1200 mg/d
Milk Thistle - Liver - 1200 mg/d
N-Acetyl Cysteine - Liver, lungs - 2000 mg/d
Hawthorn Berry - Circulation, heart - 1100 mg/d
CO Q10 - Heart - 100 mg /d
Policosanol - Cholesterol - 20 mg 2/d
Fenugreek - Blood pressure, heart - 610 mg/d
Saw Palmetto - Prostate - 320 mg/d
DHEA - overall well being / libido - avg 150 mg/d
Fish oils - Brain, heart and joints

Throughout cycle and PCT:
ActivaTe - Test booster and lean muscle mass

PCT
Rebound XT - anti-e, increase natural test
Toremifene Citrate - less toxic than nolva / clomid

I recall Dr. D recommending an inverse protocol like this for PCT (BTW, I added the ACT on this):

wk1: Tor 60-120mg/d, RXT 25mg, ACT 4 caps
wk2: Tor 30-60mg/d, RXT 25mg, ACT 4 caps
wk3: Tor 30mg/d, RXT 50mg, ACT 4 caps
wk4: Tor 30mg/d, RXT 50mg, ACT 4 caps


I hope this helps. I have a excel schedule (day by day dosages for each) if you are interested.

Also, guys please feel free to provide any advice / suggestions.

Thanks again for the info. I love this site. I wish I would of found it earlier. People actually reply and are knowledgable. Sweeetttt

Originally Posted by Ronin13

Just my $0.02 but I put this together over the past month or so in prep for my (first ever) sd cycle. I took most of the info and advice from Dr. D on this.

I think it is recommended to pre-load the support supps at least a week to ten days prior to your cycle:


Preloaded, throughout cycle and PCT (Supp - Benefit - dosage):

Red Yeast Rice - Cholesterol - 1200 mg/d
Milk Thistle - Liver - 1200 mg/d
N-Acetyl Cysteine - Liver, lungs - 2000 mg/d
Hawthorn Berry - Circulation, heart - 1100 mg/d
CO Q10 - Heart - 100 mg /d
Policosanol - Cholesterol - 20 mg 2/d
Fenugreek - Blood pressure, heart - 610 mg/d
Saw Palmetto - Prostate - 320 mg/d
DHEA - overall well being / libido - avg 150 mg/d
Fish oils - Brain, heart and joints

Throughout cycle and PCT:
ActivaTe - Test booster and lean muscle mass

PCT
Rebound XT - anti-e, increase natural test
Toremifene Citrate - less toxic than nolva / clomid

I recall Dr. D recommending an inverse protocol like this for PCT (BTW, I added the ACT on this):

wk1: Tor 60-120mg/d, RXT 25mg, ACT 4 caps
wk2: Tor 30-60mg/d, RXT 25mg, ACT 4 caps
wk3: Tor 30mg/d, RXT 50mg, ACT 4 caps
wk4: Tor 30mg/d, RXT 50mg, ACT 4 caps


I hope this helps. I have a excel schedule (day by day dosages for each) if you are interested.

Also, guys please feel free to provide any advice / suggestions.

The only thing beside the above that I can recommend is running during cycle Taurine and Potassium at 5g and 400mg daily to combat cramping.

I definitely agree. Forgot all about those but think they are in my excel file...

BTW, thanks for the reps reidhoch... happy to finally be able to share the knowledge I have soaked up from everyone here.

Don't mean to change the subject on your forum halljo, but I can't PM people because I just joined. If it is alright with you Ronin13, I would like to take you up on the Excel offer you made to halljo. Again sorry for the interruption.

I just mentioned in another thred how good it is to see a new user, plus someone who is doing their first cycle (if Im wrong let me know) actually put forth the effort to research something BEFORE he begins taking it.
HAd a dosing plan, actually read some arguments on PCT, learned a thing or two, cared enough about safty/toxicity....

I put a link in his thread to this one, thinking at the VERY least, something is just a click away.

...If only there were more like halljo!!

Absolutely no problem. if you don't mind posting your email address I will send it along. Unless there is a real interest from more people- then I will attach it here.

Originally Posted by Dr4g3n

Don't mean to change the subject on your forum halljo, but I can't PM people because I just joined. If it is alright with you Ronin13, I would like to take you up on the Excel offer you made to halljo. Again sorry for the interruption.

Originally Posted by Ronin13

Absolutely no problem. if you don't mind posting your email address I will send it along. Unless there is a real interest from more people- then I will attach it here.

Attach it, I would like to see it as well as a lot of others I'm sure.

I am currently at work but will load it as soon as I get home.

ok guys, go easy on me here. This is just something I put together for my proposed SD cycle. This forum was invaluable in this process.

The cycle is 9.5 weeks. 10 days of preloading supps, 4 weeks on SD and 4 weeks of PCT. If the sides are to much during week 4 then I will just start PCT.


The file contains 4 tabs:

1. SD Cycle Details (used this to calculate the required supplements and track the dosages by day / week)

2. PCT Notes (this contains some information from the forum regarding various PCT options and dosages)

3. Blood Work Orders (these are specific blood tests I am having performed before and after)

4. Glossary (this contains descriptions of blood work, pct suppport explanations, etc.)

I was going to update this file with the blood work results and to maintain my day to day log.

I hope this helps at least on person considering an SD cycle.

Any feedback would be appreciated.

Thanks!

I just opened it at work and am going to print it out. I must say, even though I am new to this and a new member. Just from looking at the spreadsheet, I can tell you have done your research and make it look promising to me. I'll post again once I check it out more in depth. Thanks again.

Ronin, did you seriously go up to 75 mg/day of Superdrol?

Are you just taking Superdrol and nothing else?? No Test base or 4-Andro? SD by itself will kill your test and libido. That is not a good idea.

I also think its a little much on the PCT. I would drop the fenugreek, Policosanol, and DHEA, not necessary. The saw palmetto is questionable too.

The rest is fine. This is my opinion on the cycle.

Originally Posted by NiteHawk

Are you just taking Superdrol and nothing else?? No Test base or 4-Andro? SD by itself will kill your test and libido. That is not a good idea.

I also think its a little much on the PCT. I would drop the fenugreek, Policosanol, and DHEA, not necessary. The saw palmetto is questionable too.

The rest is fine. This is my opinion on the cycle.

Superdrol doesnt have the same effect on libido for everyone. I for one, just got slightly more horney. Didnt really shut me down either.
With PCT, better safe then sorry though... too much is better then too little. I'd keep the DHEA, but the other things, I have done fine without.

Hey DSL - This is a proposed cycle. I know of people whom have gone up to 75mg/day with no problem but also people whom have ended the cycle at 3 weeks and 2 days because the 75mg/day was too much.

Originally Posted by dsl

Ronin, did you seriously go up to 75 mg/day of Superdrol?

Yeah, my head was in my azz when I responded here because if you read the later posts... This was my set up for prostanazol cycle and wasn't thinking actually thinking about superdrol here. sorry.

Hey, did Taurine actually help supress the wicked backpumps from an SD cycle?

NiteHawk - Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate your thoughts on this.
Unfortunately, I am not able to locate any of these other items you mention. I would love to try bigger and better things later but obtaining stuff has been a hurdle for me.

xtraflossy - I appreciate the advice and agree that I would rather be safe than sorry. I also would like to keep as much of the gains as possible so I am hoping a solid PCT, the appropriate routine and diet during PCT will help with this.

Thanks again guys!!!!!

You will definitely find people on the forum swear by this but as this is a proposed cycle, I cannot officially comment.

Originally Posted by evs

Hey, did Taurine actually help supress the wicked backpumps from an SD cycle?

thnx

I need to apologize guys

The file that I uploaded started out to be a Prostanozol cycle - hence the 25mg/d dosage but didn't update the dosages when I switched it to the SD cycle.

I have updated the file and reattached. Again, I apologize.



To all of you who noticed I was an idiot - thanks for not neg repping me...

I was wondering about that, glad you got it changed. Overall, I like what you have layed out and give you an A+ for the day

Thanks dsl.

Not sure what I will do first (my igf or the sd cycle) but when I do I will have a complete package including b4 and after pics, access to my fitday diet and blood work for everyone to review as well.