is the casein in mpi micellar?
- 04-10-2006, 01:46 AM
is the casein in mpi micellar?
im making a custom protein mix at tp and was going to go with 30% wpi 25%egg white and 45% mpi (which is 80% casein and 20%whey) but i wanted to make sure that the casein in milk protein isolate is a micellar casein before ordering, otherwise id just go with something like 35% wpi 25%egg white and 40% micellar casein but it would cost more.
p.s. hows the custom mix look any suggestions
- 04-10-2006, 03:35 AM
04-10-2006, 10:10 AM
No, Milk protein isolate is NOT 80% Micellar Casien, 20% Whey.
For example, just to show a difference, the calcium in MPI is between 25%-35% DV per 30 grams, while micellar casien is 80% DV per 30 grams. Even factoring out the whey (If all the calcium is in the casien) the diffenence is atleast 80% vs. 44%.
04-10-2006, 11:29 AM
04-10-2006, 05:05 PM
pardon my ignorance but what is dv? and how does it make the casein in mpi inferior to micellar?Originally Posted by Xel
04-10-2006, 07:16 PM
Q ] What are the different types of casein proteins on the market?
A: Casein is the major protein in milk and comprises 80% of its total proteins. In terms of protein powders, casein is mainly available for human nutrition as a denatured caseinate salt and as an undenatured, ultra filtered micellar casein.
[ Q ] What are the differences between micellar casein and the caseinates?
A: Although micellar casein is more expensive, it is entirely a higher quality protein. Being produced without chemicals, micellar casein is in its native form and is of nearly perfect quality.
Micellar casein will either be called "micellar casein" or "milk protein isolate/concentrate." They are exactly the same thing as both are mostly micellar casein with a small amount of whey.
Caseinates, on the other hand, are produced through a chemical reaction. Although very pure protein products, they are denatured and of inferior quality. We recommend staying away from these proteins.
I found this in a bb.com article, it seems to say that it is micellar???
04-11-2006, 01:56 PM
Yes, it is, I would say, since the isolate of Milkprotein is only chenicaly treated to get out all of the protein out of the milk and not secifuically whey or caseinates, as a pure-form, it should contain all of the naturally occuring frations of the milkprotein.
that´s what the las tquote says, if it´s right, that micellar is concetrate or isolate, although I don´t know, how many fractions are removed during isolation, but it´s mainly fat, sugar, compl. carbs, and partly some globulines.
I´ve always had god succes with milkprotein, better than with whey, and that even wasn´t5 isolate just plain milkprotein.
Unfortunately it´s so hard to come by here in Europe and the custom charges 40% custom and vat, because of some sucking trading.restrictions, whre they´re bashing the USA in contrast to their restrictions to us, but I (we)´ve got to pay for the BS.^^
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