So we are settling for the lessor of the evils?
Depends on your risk reward ratio. If you don't mind a natural test level of zero, liver values going sky high, periodically going majorly hypoglycemic and ridiculous lower back cramps, M1T is the ****. Those are all possible side effects of all steroids, M1T in particular. The gains off M1T for people who ate and trained right were fairly impressive, so I'm guessing the friend you cited either didn't do one or both of those, did not do a proper PCT, or maybe even had an underdosed product.
Let's get this straight guys, if you don't want to admit it I will. We are creatures of immense ego and anything to boost our standing even if in our own minds is worth just about anything.
Having said that ... what the heck is PP?
Phere Plex, one of the newer semi legal steroids. As for being a creature of ego, I'd love to be huge like I was when I was young, but the risks aren't really worth it for me at this point so it's not for me.
The 'Heroin' ? Come on it's not that great or powerful - I get the point though. I know the stuff gives some great results, I've seen them in my training partner. He started at 190 and now weighs 205'ish. That just does not sound like a steroid like result. Especially after he has used it for at least 6 - 7 cycles.
Problem is people can do legit dbol cycles with little to no results as well. The most likely reasons are poor diet and training, in that order. Poor or no PCT is another. Steroids aren't magic pills, they need to be used properly to get gains. Otherwise you get a little anabolism and some nutrient partitioning benefits for a few weeks and then a few weeks to several months of being more catabolic than normal if you don't do a proper PCT, in which time you lose most if not all the gains you made during the cycle, which themselves are determined to a great deal by diet.
Many people take steroids because they're not gaining weight anymore. However, if they're not gaining weight then by default they aren't eating enough. If they were, they'd be gaining something, if not muscle, because even the most ridiculous routine will give some results if done with dedication so long as a person's diet is correct. So you have someone using steroids who already has an inappropriate diet for natural training and someone who is also likely not taking proper PCT, diet and training steps after their cycle too.
I guess my attempt at this post was to find a legal and heathly, non-threatening way to harden my curent weight. I've dropped from 260 to 245, and I just want to keep my mass while cutting up a little more. Right now it looks like I'll need to hit 230 to have a set of abs and vascular look, I'd love that to be 235 instead.
There are various fat burning and body recomp stack logs here, do a search for those terms. Some use currently available steroids, some use other types of supplements that can be effective as well, and are much lower risk, like TTA in Designer Supplement's Melting Point.