Apple cider vinegar?

[Bulldog7]

Has anyone used apple cider vinegar in order to help achieve fat loss? If so any feedback?

[ManBeast]

I am using it right now, no feedback quite yet, I seem to be loosing at a decent/slow rate right now. It just seems that whenever I start doing something (cutting, bulking) that requires discipline, **** comes up in my life that makes it hard.

ManBeast

[Bulldog7]

Ya I hear ya....how long have you been using it?

[Robboe]

I have a shot of ACV anytime i eat any refined or processed carbohydrates (wholegrain bagels, mostly).

[IRISHRYG]

someone suggested this to me to help lower blood pressure, any truth that it can help do this?

[mab904]

Vinegar can help to lower blood sugar. So this may be its benefit as far as weight loss.
One theory on why vinegar lowers blood sugar is that vinegar affects carbohydrate digestion. Acetic acid, a component of vinegar, interferes with the enzymes that digest carbohydrates. So the simple carbs pass on through without stopping, much like fiber does.

[David Dunn]

http://www.mindandmuscle.net/forum//...topic=2120&hl=

[LCSULLA]

My GF's mother uses this and said she dropped two pants sizes in about two months while using this. I dunno if she was doing anything else but she claims not have been.

[WannaGro]

So you just take a shot of it, I was taking a TBSP in water, but it doesn't taste very good, A shot seems like it would burn the hell out of your throat, and do you take like an OZ or 2 OZ, what kind of dosing do you follow for it to be effective? Thanks.

-WannaGro

[CROWLER]

I have a shot of ACV anytime i eat any refined or processed carbohydrates (wholegrain bagels, mostly).

Interesting. I could DEFINITELY use something as I eat quite a bit of processed carbs. Do you mean you do a full shot glass type shot 1oz? Do you mix it in anything?


CROWLER

[Markum1]

Does it come in tablet form?

[David Dunn]

I used to mix a 50/50 ratio of white wine vinegar and lemon juice I a bottle and swig a mouthful post workout. Excellent glucose transport agents. Read the thread, I logged my results there as well.

[Robboe]

Interesting. I could DEFINITELY use something as I eat quite a bit of processed carbs. Do you mean you do a full shot glass type shot 1oz? Do you mix it in anything?


CROWLER

I actually use the bottle cap - its about 2 tbsp. I just pour into the cap and neck it. There is a mild burning sensation, but it passes, or you can drink some water to neutralize it.

I recall a post by Spook of Avant where he was talking about insulin response from nutrients, and he was basically saying (since i can't be bothered to search and can't recall the quotes off my head) that processed carbohydrates don't send the same signals that "natural" or fiberous carbohydrates do. The acetic acid provides substrate for the TCA/kreb's cycle to help send the signals.

I class myself as an "endomorph" so i find this not only quite helpful with regards to processed carbohydrates, but also quite important.

[391rippy]

Does it come in tablet form?

buy sodium acetate and cap it. ~650mg per serving works fine. take some calcium citrate as well and you're good to go

[Marshall Law]

someone suggested this to me to help lower blood pressure, any truth that it can help do this?

Yes, I've been using this for years and it's worked wonders in both weight loss and BP.

I mix it with 100% Organic Apple juice and you can hardly taste the ACV.

[DCbuilder]

I actually use the bottle cap - its about 2 tbsp. I just pour into the cap and neck it. There is a mild burning sensation, but it passes, or you can drink some water to neutralize it.

I recall a post by Spook of Avant where he was talking about insulin response from nutrients, and he was basically saying (since i can't be bothered to search and can't recall the quotes off my head) that processed carbohydrates don't send the same signals that "natural" or fiberous carbohydrates do. The acetic acid provides substrate for the TCA/kreb's cycle to help send the signals.

I class myself as an "endomorph" so i find this not only quite helpful with regards to processed carbohydrates, but also quite important.

I took a full shot 1 time per day with dinner - I'm talking filling up a full shot glass, to the brim.

after doing this for about 2 months, my stomach started bloating immensely and my doctor basically said something to the effect that I was taking way too much at once and it was destroying my stomach.

Since then I haven't touched the stuff, but I think a shot using the bottle cap is MUCH more reasonable than a complete shot glass.

[Brent]

I wonder how it would destroy your stomach. According to my numbers the pH of Apple Cider Vinegar is lower than cola.

[Robboe]

I took a full shot 1 time per day with dinner - I'm talking filling up a full shot glass, to the brim.

after doing this for about 2 months, my stomach started bloating immensely and my doctor basically said something to the effect that I was taking way too much at once and it was destroying my stomach.

Since then I haven't touched the stuff, but I think a shot using the bottle cap is MUCH more reasonable than a complete shot glass.

You only really need 2 tbsp or so. But i am suprised you developed an issue through it, because several people on avant take 2tsbp vinegar with most meals, which surely accumulates to the same as, if not more than, a shot glass worth?

[WannaGro]

It depends on what type of shot glass he is using, I know of 3 sizes (1 oz, 1.5oz, and 2oz), I have 2 sizes my self. 1oz might not be that bad, but alot of people have the 2oz ones that look alot like 1.5 oz and 2 oz seems like way to much vinegar to take all at once. I just take a TBSP before meals.

[Grunt76]

I've been using ACV as a general detoxifier for years now. I use about 1-2 oz in a half-glass of water. Whenever I eat processed carbs or when it's been a while. It detoxes the liver very well and it is useful for most digestive issues. A couple times a year I'll run it every day at waking up for a month, just to keep my insides nice and fresh.

APPLE CIDER VINEGAR IS *NOT* JUST ACETIC ACID. IT IS ALSO MALIC ACID. And many other things. Sorry for the caps, but this is of MAJOR importance! Don't go and take white vinegar expecting the same benefits as pure organic cider vinegar. Organic is said to be very important because of the random effects that pesticides and fungicides can have on the chemistry of, in a first step, the formation of cider, and in a second step of the vinegar.

This is one reason why it has such a different effect from the other vinegars.

Here's a link to some cures with ACV: http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/acvinegar.html