what do you think about this xfactor stack

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  1. what do you think about this xfactor stack


    xfactor:
    4 pills for full 50 days

    basic cuts:
    one dose (2 pills) for full 50 days

    rebound xt:
    wk2: 50mg
    wk3:75mg
    wk4: 75mg
    wk5: 100mg
    wk6: 75mg
    wk7: 50mg
    day 50: 25mg

    I weigh 190lb about 5'9

    I thinking about doing a cycle to lose some weight and harden up. I hear x-factor is real good with that. Im not sure if I should dose the rebound xt like that or should I use it later in the cycle or even use it. My diet is perfect so no need to help their.


  2. i ran x factor and added ultra hotter after 2 weeks. results kicked ass. i did 4 x factor split throughout the day and 3-4 of the atd before bed. strength gains were really good considering this to be a natural stack. i finished the atd about 1 week ago and have another week left of x factor. unfortunately, ive been experiencing symptoms of overtraining, so im taking time off right now.
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  3. Thanks for the help. I will be starting the cycle just after christmas. Thats when ill start my log. Im hoping for the best.

  4. i don't understand why you wanna take ATD, plus that dosage is strange . ??

  5. I wanted to take ATD because i heared it helps keep you hard. Also i was just taking a guess with the dosage i wasnt really sure on how to dose it.
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  6. id prob choose Diesel Test other an ATD.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by paint2100
    I wanted to take ATD because i heared it helps keep you hard. Also i was just taking a guess with the dosage i wasnt really sure on how to dose it.
    ATD is known for libido crushing effects. Usually sets in after a week+. Go with something like customs Xtreme Tribulus or something like that.

    Adams
    The Historic PES Legend

  8. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982
    ATD is known for libido crushing effects. Usually sets in after a week+. Go with something like customs Xtreme Tribulus or something like that.

    Adams
    Wow just noticed... you should not have ANY problems with libido at 19... your good to go man.

    Adams
    The Historic PES Legend

  9. What would you guys recommend about the dosage. Should I keep a constant dose throughtout the cycle.

  10. AA increase the androgen recpetor density in the cell, so it makes sense to stack an aromatase inhibitor with it. Since anti-estrgen/aromatase-inhibitor increase testosterone leveles, and AA increase AR denisity both will make a good synergic anabolic combo.

    I think 6-oxo is better that ATD for this purpose, since ATD seems to have anti-androgen properties.

  11. so how would activate, atd, and x factor satck?...from what you said about increasing androgen receptor density, this seems like it might be a hell of a stack

  12. Hey hulk what did you gain?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by THE GREATEST
    so how would activate, atd, and x factor satck?...from what you said about increasing androgen receptor density, this seems like it might be a hell of a stack
    i thought it would make a great stack, infact i was thinking to try it soon. But molecular Nutrition rep advised against stacking X-factor and activate for some reason.

  14. in my x factor atd experience, my bodyweight increased from 176 lbs to 184 lbs with minimal bodyfat added. strength increased significantly though. at the beginning, 225 lbs would go up for 5-6 on flat bench. now, i get it for 12 reps. make sure you abide by all the rules of taking x factor cause ive followed some logs where gains completely stop when taking efa's and such. get your fats from dairy, meat, coconut oil, and whole eggs.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by x_muscle
    i thought it would make a great stack, infact i was thinking to try it soon. But molecular Nutrition rep advised against stacking X-factor and activate for some reason.
    i think the whole thing with x factor stacked with activate is still up in the air. it was advised against because activate has some anti inflammatory properties i believe. however, i think it was uhockey or robboe who concluded that the two can be stacked. theres gotta be someone whos tried it.

  16. I'm very interested in taking X-factor with Activate. I think they would work very well together.

    I've heard about people thinking about doing it but haven't heard of anyone actually doing it yet.
    William Llewellyn's Anabolics, Underground Anabolics, and SSRG ebook editions!

  17. I think because of the somewhat high cost of X-Factor people are reluctant to running anything that might inhibit the product. Has anyone who has used X-Factor had any exacerbation of inflammatory ailments such as asthma or joint soreness?

  18. ATD+Activate+X-factor would be completely sick! As would X-factor plus Diesel Test.

    But X-Factor works great on its own when used properly. Just be sure you aren't using any heavy anti-inflammatory agents. What not to use:

    NSAIDS (aspirin, ibuprofen, etc)
    Flax/fish oil (or other heavy source of omega 3s)
    NAC
    Cissus q.
    Ashwahganda

    I usually recommend getting most fat intake from animal sources and extra virgin coconut oil. I also just say stop taking ANYTHING (aside from basics) while using X-Factor just to be sure. But there is definitely reason to believe that certain stacks would be very VERY potent.
    MOTIV8 II Challenge
    -=The Big Squirrel Nut Swingers=-

  19. I'm a bit lazy to do the research myself so is AA a pro-inflammatory or does one jsut need to restrict anti-inflammatories? I have some joint issues and as such can't afford to take any product that will have a pro-inflammatory effect? So am I best off just passing on this product? I use a lot of the no-no supps including omega3, NAC, Cissus, and Celadrin to keep pain at bay.

  20. Yes it is a pro-flammitory. It is recommended if you have a injury that you stay away from this product. The inflamitory response will make the pain worse.
    William Llewellyn's Anabolics, Underground Anabolics, and SSRG ebook editions!

  21. guess I won't be trying X-factor any time soon, I don't need my shoulder aching anymore than it already does.

  22. Which way would you think dosing the rebound xt out during the x-factor, basic cuts cycle. I have only one bottle and dont feel like getting another at this moment. Your help will be apperciated.

    wk1:25mg
    wk2:50mg
    wk3:50mg
    wk4:50mg
    wk5:50mg
    wk6:50mg
    wk7:50mg


    OR
    wk3:50mg
    wk4:75mg
    wk5:75mg
    wk6:75mg
    wk7:50mg

  23. Can anyone comment on why Vitaminn Shoppe pulled X-factor?

  24. Quote Originally Posted by wideguy
    Can anyone comment on why Vitaminn Shoppe pulled X-factor?
    This is news to me. I'm gonna look into it. But I can imagine it was for the same reason some people still are afraid of it: simple misunderstanding.
    MOTIV8 II Challenge
    -=The Big Squirrel Nut Swingers=-
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