is it safe to add egg whites to a protein shake?
- 12-16-2005, 03:46 AM
- 12-16-2005, 04:17 AM
I do it. They're pastuerized (sp?) though. It's those egg whites in a carton. Only sides I've ever gotten is gas.
12-16-2005, 09:56 AM
Been doing it for 7 years now and I haven't sprouted a third arm out of my forehead or anything unusual...
12-16-2005, 10:11 AM
I think the worry is salmonella poisoning. Eggs are pasteurized, it is bacteria on the shell that carries the salmonella, especially on eggs from the smaller farms where they do not clean them as thoroughly. I would wash the eggs carefully before cracking them into my shake.
12-16-2005, 01:42 PM
Washing the egg doesn't really help. It turns out that salmonella can actually reside in the chickens reproductive tract, and strangely enough winds up inside the egg.
Still, the odds are something like 1 in 10,000 eggs are actually contaminated, so it depends on how lucky you feel. The best way to go is pasteurized, then you know its okay.
12-16-2005, 04:00 PM
12-16-2005, 04:44 PM
12-16-2005, 04:53 PM
I hope it is 1 in 1,000,000 b/c if it is 1 in 10,000, anyone who uses them regularly would probably end up getting sick. If you use 6 per day, 7 days per week that would be 42 per week. Do that for a year and...I suck at math, someone else figure it out. The chances is much higher
12-16-2005, 04:57 PM
12-16-2005, 05:05 PM
12-16-2005, 05:10 PM
Youd be surprised how many food items have raw eggs in them. A lot of desserts at restaraunts have raw egg in them. Ceaser dressing if its real has raw or coddled egg. If youve ever eaten a sunny side up egg youve eaten raw egg basically. Personally I think people are too paranoid about it. The only problem is eggs need to be cooked for your body to utilise all the protein in it.
12-16-2005, 05:12 PM
12-16-2005, 05:38 PM
I was dating a girl and one night she didn't have anything in the fridge, but carton of eggs, I sucked them right out of shells, I thought she's gonna throw up. LOL She said she'll never kiss me again.
12-16-2005, 07:50 PM
I get the pasteurized egg whites in a carton (All Whites). I've put it in my shakes and even drank it straight from the carton when pushed for time.
12-16-2005, 08:10 PM
12-16-2005, 10:25 PM
12-16-2005, 11:17 PM
LOL Ok, then. Be carefull what you wish for, you might get it. I just came back from Smithfield, NC, I'm a (dirty) truck driver. I'll be back! (in the best Arnold's voice)
12-19-2005, 11:22 AM
That would mean that you use 2184 eggs a year and would run into atleast one containing the bacteria every 4 years and 58 days, +/- a couple of hours.Originally Posted by Beowulf
12-19-2005, 11:55 AM
12-29-2005, 12:31 PM
12-29-2005, 01:31 PM
18 extra large whole uncooked eggs a day Rocky style and no problems so far.
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12-30-2005, 07:40 PM
I'm no doctor but from what I've read, salmonella isn't that bad if you're a healthy adult. You'll get sick, but it's nothing like ecoli.
01-01-2006, 05:45 AM
From the CDC websit:Originally Posted by Moyer
Egg-associated salmonellosis is an important public health problem in the United States and several European countries. A bacterium, Salmonella enteritidis, can be inside perfectly normal-appearing eggs, and if the eggs are eaten raw or undercooked, the bacterium can cause illness. During the 1980s, illness related to contaminated eggs occurred most frequently in the northeastern United States, but now illness caused by S. enteritidis is increasing in other parts of the country as well. Consumers should be aware of the disease and learn how to minimize the chances of becoming ill.
A person infected with the Salmonella enteritidis bacterium usually has fever, abdominal cramps, and diarrhea beginning 12 to 72 hours after consuming a contaminated food or beverage. The illness usually lasts 4 to 7 days, and most persons recover without antibiotic treatment. However, the diarrhea can be severe, and the person may be ill enough to require hospitalization.
The elderly, infants, and those with impaired immune systems may have a more severe illness. In these patients, the infection may spread from the intestines to the blood stream, and then to other body sites and can cause death unless the person is treated promptly with antibiotics.
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How eggs become contaminated
Unlike eggborne salmonellosis of past decades, the current epidemic is due to intact and disinfected grade A eggs. Salmonella enteritidis silently infects the ovaries of healthy appearing hens and contaminates the eggs before the shells are formed.
Most types of Salmonella live in the intestinal tracts of animals and birds and are transmitted to humans by contaminated foods of animal origin. Stringent procedures for cleaning and inspecting eggs were implemented in the 1970s and have made salmonellosis caused by external fecal contamination of egg shells extremely rare. However, unlike eggborne salmonellosis of past decades, the current epidemic is due to intact and disinfected grade A eggs. The reason for this is that Salmonella enteritidis silently infects the ovaries of healthy appearing hens and contaminates the eggs before the shells are formed.
Although most infected hens have been found in the northeastern United States, the infection also occurs in hens in other areas of the country. In the Northeast, approximately one in 10,000 eggs may be internally contaminated. In other parts of the United States, contaminated eggs appear less common. Only a small number of hens seem to be infected at any given time, and an infected hen can lay many normal eggs while only occasionally laying an egg contaminated with the Salmonella bacterium.
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Who can be infected?
The elderly, infants, and persons with impaired immune systems are at increased risk for serious illness.
Healthy adults and children are at risk for egg-associated salmonellosis, but the elderly, infants, and persons with impaired immune systems are at increased risk for serious illness. In these persons, a relatively small number of Salmonella bacteria can cause severe illness. Most of the deaths caused by Salmonella enteritidis have occurred among the elderly in nursing homes. Egg-containing dishes prepared for any of these high-risk persons in hospitals, in nursing homes, in restaurants, or at home should be thoroughly cooked and served promptly.
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What is the risk?
In affected parts of the United States, we estimate that one in 50 average consumers could be exposed to a contaminated egg each year. If that egg is thoroughly cooked, the Salmonella organisms will be destroyed and will not make the person sick. Many dishes made in restaurants or commercial or institutional kitchens, however, are made from pooled eggs. If 500 eggs are pooled, one batch in 20 will be contaminated and everyone who eats eggs from that batch is at risk. A healthy person's risk for infection by Salmonella enteritidis is low, even in the northeastern United States, if individually prepared eggs are properly cooked, or foods are made from pasteurized eggs.
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What you can do to reduce risk
Eggs, like meat, poultry, milk, and other foods, are safe when handled properly. Shell eggs are safest when stored in the refrigerator, individually and thoroughly cooked, and promptly consumed. The larger the number of Salmonella present in the egg, the more likely it is to cause illness. Keeping eggs adequately refrigerated prevents any Salmonella present in the eggs from growing to higher numbers, so eggs should be held refrigerated until they are needed. Cooking reduces the number of bacteria present in an egg; however, an egg with a runny yolk still poses a greater risk than a completely cooked egg. Undercooked egg whites and yolks have been associated with outbreaks of Salmonella enteritidis infections. Both should be consumed promptly and not be held in the temperature range of 40 to 140 for more than 2 hours.
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Reducing the risk of Salmonella enteritidis infection Keep eggs refrigerated.
Discard cracked or dirty eggs.
Wash hands and cooking utensils with soap and water after contact with raw eggs.
Eat eggs promptly after cooking. Do not keep eggs warm for more than 2hours.
Refrigerate unused or leftover egg- containing foods.
Avoid eating raw eggs (as in homemade ice cream or eggnog). Commercially manufactured ice cream and eggnog are made with pasteurized eggs and have not been linked with Salmonella enteritidis infections.
Avoid restaurant dishes made with raw or undercooked, unpasteurized eggs. Restaurants should use pasteurized eggs in any recipe (such as Hollandaise sauce or caesar salad dressing) that calls for pooling of raw eggs.
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What else is being done?
Government agencies and the egg industry have taken steps to reduce Salmonella enteritidis outbreaks. These steps include the difficult task of identifying and removing infected flocks from the egg supply and increasing quality assurance and sanitation measures.
The Centers for Disease Control has advised state health departments, hospitals, and nursing homes of specific measures to reduce Salmonella enteritidis infection. Some states now require refrigeration of eggs from the producer to the consumer. The U.S. Department of Agriculture is testing the breeder flocks that produce egg-laying chickens to ensure that they are free of Salmonella enteritidis. Eggs from known infected commercial flocks will be pasteurized instead of being sold as grade A shell eggs. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has issued guidelines for handling eggs in retail food establishments and will be monitoring infection in laying hens.
Research by these agencies and the egg industry is addressing the many unanswered questions about Salmonella enteritidis, the infections in hens, and contaminated eggs. Informed consumers, food-service establishments, and public and private organizations are working together to reduce, and eventually eliminate, disease caused by this infectious organism
01-01-2006, 05:49 AM
E.coli is mostly not pathogenic. there is only one pathogenic strain O157:H7 , but is very very rare microbe.Originally Posted by Moyer
some patognic bacteria that may be found in eggs:
Yersinia enterocolitica and Yersinia pseudotuberculosis
Vibrio cholerae O1
Vibrio cholerae non-O1
Vibrio parahaemolyticus and other vibrios
Aeromonas hydrophila and other spp.
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