Halodrol-50 'Exposed' by Washington Post
11-30-2005 11:47 AM
Halodrol-50 'Exposed' by Washington Post
I'm not going to offer any commentary here besides the fact that I will be eye-balling 'net retailers looking for cheap prices on the stuff when they decide to dump it.
11-30-2005 11:50 AM
Running with the Big Boys
maybe not cheaper, but free pct is nice too.
11-30-2005 12:21 PM
I am faster than 80% of all snakes
Please keep any commentary on this subject clean and respectful.
11-30-2005 12:38 PM
In passing she says "anabolic steroids, which help build muscle and speed recovery from strenuous exercise but also can cause serious health problems when used in excess.
Many things are harmful when used in excess AND they have little positive benefits yet they are legal. (alcohol and tobacco come to mind right away). I guess that large sum of tax money helps make it all better.
Its interesting to note the analysis shows DMT in additon to the listed ingredient. Isnt DMT the same as Ergomax LMG and basically Pplex as well?
11-30-2005 01:35 PM
I agree Jcam... the purpose of the entire article (IMO) was to demonize the sports supplement industry as a whole.
11-30-2005 01:43 PM
hmm.... I heard that the persistancy of Amy Shipley is due to the passing of her husband of whom improperly used these "supplements," being that he was Hypertensive... If this it true I am pissed she is taking it out on these companies, of which none had the slightest bit of control over user abuse beyond warning labels..
11-30-2005 01:54 PM
They messed up by saying late in the article that Halodrol-50 contains DMT along with the oral turinabol derivative
Athletes taking Halodrol-50 would flunk standard sport drug tests, however, because DMT -- which Catlin identified more than a year ago -- is now detectable. DMT was one of three steroids found associated with BALCO."
11-30-2005 03:33 PM
Running with the Big Boys
can this be verified?
Originally Posted by Anarchy939
11-30-2005 03:42 PM
Marathon runners occassionally die from using a certain substance in excess--water. It is called hyponatremia [sp?].
Though no emphasis was put on it, at least it does mention health consequences if used "in excess".
11-30-2005 07:05 PM
There was a thread somewhere that was started by a guy's wife. The dude died last spring: apparently heart issues, and he was hypertensive. Anyhow, she had been corresponding with Amy S.
I think that is where this comes from. Don't know anything about Amy S's husband.
The guy who died posted here. His screen name was The Reporter.
11-30-2005 07:26 PM
Hmm...I remember seeing that screen name on the bulknutrition forums. Interesting article...at least everyone knows for sure what's in it now.
Originally Posted by michaelton
11-30-2005 08:26 PM
was there ever conclusive reporting on what The Reporter died of? His wife made a plea to the board(s) for people to be careful, but as far as I can recall, there was no particular product or products related to his death. Seems like he had some medical issues...
11-30-2005 08:33 PM
i was thinking about taking halodrol-50, but i wanted to ask u two thing first. What have u heard about it showing up on a drug test and how long it would stay in ur system if it would. what are the normal side effects and what kind of liver damage have u heard that comes from it. thanks ross
this is for all of u guys, iwould appreciate all of your knowledge.
11-30-2005 08:56 PM
Well Part B of the article is very informative and I learned something new today about how a chemist turns a steroid into a designer steroid.
12-02-2005 11:58 PM
I remember when the Reporter died, and I remember his wife being on the boards. What I remember more though is that the last log he did was of Sdrol and he did a 6 week cycle (I am pretty sure it was 6), going as high as 50mgs/ed, and I also remember him stating in the log that he did NOT take his BP meds on cycle, but that he did take herbal BP ancillaries. This was before the HDL/LDL issues of SD were so well documented. I know he had taken many other AAS/PH's before this and thoroughly enjoyed the SD. I think that it is possible that these two things are related.
I wonder if someone were to wage war on the 1st amendment and make it impossible for Ms. Shipely to pursue her usually activities in the way she had become accustomed, would she so aggressively attack the lifestyle of an unthreatening group of her fellow civilians? After all, what is your beef Ms. Shipely? Am I hurting you by making well thought out, organized, and personal adult decisions? Because your decisions are begining to impinge upon my way of life.
12-03-2005 12:13 AM
All I know is I'm getting my HD-50 before its too late. This stuff sounds like the balls.
12-03-2005 12:36 AM
Dungeon... the first part of your post is accurate (IMO) and I feel the *exact* same way.
12-03-2005 12:38 AM
No problem, it's just an easy target which no one is really going to confront her on. In the end she's really not doing anything except reporting facts along with some exagerated descriptions that other people, ourselves included, have passionate reactions too. And since no one is really going to openly confront her she gets to get away with hyberbole like claiming the dietery supplement industry is a "clearing house" for anabolic steroids.
Originally Posted by Dungeon1
She gets to see herself as a hardnosed ivestigative journalist uncovering The Truth about supplements and steroids, when all she's doing is writing borderline yellow journalism pieces for people who don't know any better. You really think the general public knows the difference between an n=30 study and a case study, or gives a ****?
You can tell these muppets by the way they report. They'll say an issue is important or critical or some other nonsense, but when you look at their work it never addresses the most critical points of the issue they're reporting on. She either doesn't give a damn about debating whether or not steroids truly are harmful when used properly, and even if so whether or not people should be free to chose for themselves what goes in their body, or she's simply unaware such a debate even exists or is possible.
Either way she doesn't matter. What matters is what the public she is writing for and the politicians who make the laws that destroy thousands of lives each year are thinking and doing. Take comfort in her insignificance. Take more comfort in imagining what it would be like to get her, Doctor Wadler and a few of those nimrod politicians in a room with a few hundred juicers who did time because of insane laws, and imagine what their faces would look like when instead of flying into a roid rage they were asked calmly and reasonably why they wanted to destroy the lives of people who they've never met, people who have not harmed others.
12-03-2005 10:09 PM
Well, that's it. I guess they'll have to ban spraypaint now, since, from what I hear, for 2 bucks and a paper bag anyone can catch a pretty healthy high. Scotchguard too...the list is very, very long. And so cheap a quick mowing of the neighbor's lawn will allow Jr. to waltz down to Wally world and lay his money down. Among hundreds of other "legal" but "useful" consumer products. This all reeks of a witch-hunt, among other things. Someone should start a Blog somewhere, directing negative publicity in a positive way. Forbes had a great article on its effectiveness last month.
12-04-2005 12:18 AM
Believe it or not, spray paint is banned in the city of Chicago--meaning you can't buy/sell it at any of the hardware and home supply stores! You can own it, though.
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