Looking into Phenibut....
- 09-23-2005, 11:19 PM
Looking into Phenibut....
It seems like I like most of what people say about it, but there is a lot about the product I am not so hot about, mostly the addiction factor. It seems like this stuff is highly addictive, and although I don't have an addictive nature, the last thing I want is to have to worry about loving this stuff and getting hooked.
I have searched quite a bit, and like I said I like some of what people have said, but another thing I don't like is the fact that there seems to be NO benefit for BB's (I have gathered this from the fact that it has been asked in so many threads and never really answered). I am looking into this Liquid Relaxation, a little more expensive, but could at least have some additional benefit other than getting rid of stress.
- 09-24-2005, 02:36 AM
My advice is dose low, very low to start with. I read on avant about a 2x2 protocal. Where you take 2 grams, wait 2 hours then take 2 more grams. It was fun at first. Then me and my friend got head aches while feeling kinda tipsy. A few hours went by and it got really bad. We spent the next 12 hours of our lives puking. It was miserable. So dose low and make sure you like it before you use any decent sized amount.
09-24-2005, 10:27 AM
09-24-2005, 10:29 AM
What is your goal? IMO, phenibut should only be used to reduce anxiety from time to time. I would not recommend it for daily use. I also wouldn't be taking 2 grams of it. If you just use it when you are really anxious/stressed, you will only need 500mg. In fact, I woke up with a panic attack last night (couldn't breathe) and shoveled some powder into my mouth. Felt better in 1 hour and slept great.
09-24-2005, 10:31 AM
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09-24-2005, 02:31 PM
This is VERY true. Even despite my bad experience, I have to admit between vomitting I slept better than I have in many, many years.Originally Posted by SJA
09-24-2005, 02:40 PM
I guess my goal is just to reduce stress but on a more frequent basis, maybe 2 or 3 times a week. Close to bedtime.Originally Posted by SJA
Yeah, I'm not sure this stuff is for me.
09-24-2005, 02:57 PM
09-25-2005, 06:43 AM
I wouldn't but to much faith in this at all. I have been using phenibut for about 3 months on and off. I NEVER had the feeling of needing it.Originally Posted by Odessa14
Its a great product that i uses maybe about once every 2 weeks now but i was using about 5x's a week at a low dose(800mg-1.2g)
At a does above 2g i would sleep for about 13-15 hrs strait and wake up with my head hurting.
im about 230lbs
i would say start off low and see how it effects you. Just remember it take a while to kick in( about 1-2 hrs for me) and last (12-24hrs)
09-25-2005, 07:03 AM
First time I used it tried 2 grams, nothing much so a few hours later took another 3. Kinda tipsy feeling a suppose nothing major. Next morning was a little grogy but was def in a better mood through out the day.
Uusually I use 9-12g each time to get noticable effects and I'm 165lbs(mabey I got the bad batch). Just makes me a little more relaxed though I have to say I dont really enjoy it that much so dont use it often and def never felt any inclings of becomming addicted.
09-25-2005, 03:08 PM
Holy ****! Thats seems like a lot. But all in all, the last thing I need is anymore risk, esp since this is just for relaxation. Besides, who the hell wants a hangover, if I don't even get to drink??Originally Posted by enimity
Anyone have any info on Liquid Relaxation? All the ingredients seem good, and since its made up of a bunch of Aminos, it might have some additional benefits.
09-25-2005, 10:27 PM
Exactly , does Phenibut give hangovers? i know its a broad question but its either a yes or no i want a direct answer not on a scale of 1-10. yes or no
Originally Posted by Odessa14
09-25-2005, 11:24 PM
Well, it goes without saying that I have never tried it, but I have read a bunch of threads and many reviews and from what I can tell, yes.
09-25-2005, 11:40 PM
DAMN! I would say you def. did not get a good batch. 12g of Phen would make me want to die i think. I started taking it at 2g it was ok. the next time i used 4g and felt pretty damn good. The time i tried 7g i was pretty out of it and had the longest hang over of my life. But the 7g was only my third time using it. I have started to become more Immune to it. It is not addictive at all to me. But i don't become addicted to stuff very easy. I guess if alcohol doesn't make you addicted neither will this.Originally Posted by enimity
09-26-2005, 02:34 PM
I don't think I could addicted to the stuff because it tastes ****ing horrible. If I even think about the taste for a week after taking some I almost spew. I haven't taken in it in a few months and I'm getting nauseous thinking about it now. It definetly makes you sleep like a rock, I didn't notice a whole lot of effect when taken alone but mixed with kratom or a little booze and you'll be reeling. One night I took 2gs at 10 oclock pm and had a glass or two of wine and I was still ****ed up at 6pm the next day.
11-02-2005, 01:23 AM
11-02-2005, 10:01 PM
I tried psychotropin when it first came out and its not even on the same lvl as bulknut's phenibut. I would rank psychotropin under neurostim.Originally Posted by Grifter
11-03-2005, 06:17 PM
9 to 12g is either a bad batch or an unbelieveably high tolerance to Benzos, that's just wrong.
Phenibut is much stronger in effect when taken on a empty stomach and what I like about 'but is the next day's afterglow, many users find that they feel happy the next day after using a large dose, must be some sort of Dopamine reuptake.
Try it, you'll probably like it, chances of becoming physically or psycholigically addicted to it are small, IMO.
11-07-2005, 03:43 AM
i bought a bottlr about 1 1/2 ago ago and only used it once at like 800 mgs. I liked it my question is does the bottle of phenibut lose its effectiveness, after its opened and not used?
11-08-2005, 04:45 PM
Keep in mind that some people would get withdrawal once they discontinue phenibut use. I actually had panic attacks worse than the simptoms that got me to use it once I stopped using it which was scary.
11-08-2005, 05:34 PM
I had a near identical experience. I took about 4 grams split in two doses before a speech in my public speaking class. Speech went okay, but as I walked home I got weird tunnel vision. At home, things went from bad to worse. I spent the next 15 hours in bed with the worst nausea/spins ever.Originally Posted by aspire210
11-14-2005, 02:27 AM
I've tried a few things, and my personal favorite for social disinhibition is 1500mg Phenibut + 500mg Theanine + 3 glasses of good red wine or three bottles of beer consumed over the course of an hour, where the phenibut is taken 2 hours before drinking and the theanine 30 minutes before; that gets me the perfect balance between disinhibition and maintained motory skills. Some people might need more, as I only use phenibut maybe once or twice a month and drink very infrequently and modestly, so sensitivity is high on all fronts, but starting low and working up to your "happy place" is a good idea.
1.5g Ashwaganda, 1g Green Tea Extract, and low-dose AMP + H.E.A.T. also work nicely with the above combo.
01-21-2006, 06:23 AM
Has anyone ever used phenibut while they are on an ECY stack. When I Know I'm gonna be partying late I'll dose some ECY before I go out to keep my energy levels strong and also because ECY makes me feel happy and energetic for the first hour or two after I take it. Does anyone know if the two might have some synergy?
01-21-2006, 02:37 PM
Phenibut x ECY
Yes, I've taken it. It will take the edge and nervous energy down a few notches (dose dependent). I've mainly taken it at night when I've overstimulated during the day, to help wind down. If you took them together, it'd be akin to drinking coffee and having a glass of wine, sort of offsets each other, but you might find a nice balance of alertness and chillness.
01-26-2006, 03:12 AM
I have been taking phenibut at night every now and then. 500mg-1g. good supplement, works well if you do not have stimulants in your system. Do I think it's addictive? Not at all. Unless you want to look at as "everything you take is addictive" which is a statment I would agree with. Anything that gives someone a result they strive for has a chance of becoming addicted.
02-28-2006, 03:54 PM
I tried it with the ECY, they kinda seemed to cancel eachother out so I don't really like that. I'm trying to think about would would be good to combine it with. I don't drink, period. I like phenibut on it's own cuz it does give me a slight buzz, and since it really doesn't have any sides that's always welcome, but I want to find something that'd be good to combine with it at a party setting. I'm thinking some theanine would be good, and maybe some rhodiola. Does anyone else have any suggestions?
03-01-2006, 12:54 AM
yeah i just take it alone and if you do want a more buzz already then it gives you, take a beer or two or shot(whatever u prefer) because when you take phenibut and drink 2 drinks its like drinking 4 drinks. dont ask me why
Originally Posted by mywetnightmares
03-01-2006, 02:48 AM
03-01-2006, 10:46 PM
For me the bb benifit is that it takes the place of beer, not as good a buzz but it doesnt have the calories. Tonight for the first time I took it before working out, and did 50 min of intense cardio with no prob. Beer destroys my endurance. It doesn't feel addicting, but then again I haven't stopped using it since I first tried it about 3 months ago.
03-11-2006, 03:05 PM
Hey guys....is it bad to smoke Phenibut...i jsut found out that my boyfriend did so ya im kind of curoius about it
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