Looking into Phenibut....

[Odessa14]

It seems like I like most of what people say about it, but there is a lot about the product I am not so hot about, mostly the addiction factor. It seems like this stuff is highly addictive, and although I don't have an addictive nature, the last thing I want is to have to worry about loving this stuff and getting hooked.

I have searched quite a bit, and like I said I like some of what people have said, but another thing I don't like is the fact that there seems to be NO benefit for BB's (I have gathered this from the fact that it has been asked in so many threads and never really answered). I am looking into this Liquid Relaxation, a little more expensive, but could at least have some additional benefit other than getting rid of stress.
Thoughts?

Thanks Bros!

O14

[aspire210]

My advice is dose low, very low to start with. I read on avant about a 2x2 protocal. Where you take 2 grams, wait 2 hours then take 2 more grams. It was fun at first. Then me and my friend got head aches while feeling kinda tipsy. A few hours went by and it got really bad. We spent the next 12 hours of our lives puking. It was miserable. So dose low and make sure you like it before you use any decent sized amount.

[Odessa14]

**** man, than ks for the heads up....Liquid Relaxation is looking better and better

[SJA]

What is your goal? IMO, phenibut should only be used to reduce anxiety from time to time. I would not recommend it for daily use. I also wouldn't be taking 2 grams of it. If you just use it when you are really anxious/stressed, you will only need 500mg. In fact, I woke up with a panic attack last night (couldn't breathe) and shoveled some powder into my mouth. Felt better in 1 hour and slept great.

[CEDeoudes59]

Check this one out:
http://www.1fast400.com/product_revi...eviews_id=5331


5stars
Product: Psychotropin
Date: Friday 01 July, 2005
Review:

Makes you feel like you just banged angelina jolie while doing 2 lines of coke at an all you can eat chinese buffet, GOD I LOVE IT!

[aspire210]

Felt better in 1 hour and slept great.

This is VERY true. Even despite my bad experience, I have to admit between vomitting I slept better than I have in many, many years.

[Odessa14]

What is your goal? IMO, phenibut should only be used to reduce anxiety from time to time. I would not recommend it for daily use. I also wouldn't be taking 2 grams of it. If you just use it when you are really anxious/stressed, you will only need 500mg. In fact, I woke up with a panic attack last night (couldn't breathe) and shoveled some powder into my mouth. Felt better in 1 hour and slept great.

I guess my goal is just to reduce stress but on a more frequent basis, maybe 2 or 3 times a week. Close to bedtime.

Yeah, I'm not sure this stuff is for me.

[SJA]

L-theanine may help you sleep. You can take it every night.

[Pushofabutton]

mostly the addiction factor.

I wouldn't but to much faith in this at all. I have been using phenibut for about 3 months on and off. I NEVER had the feeling of needing it.

Its a great product that i uses maybe about once every 2 weeks now but i was using about 5x's a week at a low dose(800mg-1.2g)

At a does above 2g i would sleep for about 13-15 hrs strait and wake up with my head hurting.

im about 230lbs
6'3
15%bf
19
male

i would say start off low and see how it effects you. Just remember it take a while to kick in( about 1-2 hrs for me) and last (12-24hrs)

[enimity]

First time I used it tried 2 grams, nothing much so a few hours later took another 3. Kinda tipsy feeling a suppose nothing major. Next morning was a little grogy but was def in a better mood through out the day.

Uusually I use 9-12g each time to get noticable effects and I'm 165lbs(mabey I got the bad batch). Just makes me a little more relaxed though I have to say I dont really enjoy it that much so dont use it often and def never felt any inclings of becomming addicted.

[Odessa14]

First time I used it tried 2 grams, nothing much so a few hours later took another 3. Kinda tipsy feeling a suppose nothing major. Next morning was a little grogy but was def in a better mood through out the day.

Uusually I use 9-12g each time to get noticable effects and I'm 165lbs(mabey I got the bad batch). Just makes me a little more relaxed though I have to say I dont really enjoy it that much so dont use it often and def never felt any inclings of becomming addicted.

Holy ****! Thats seems like a lot. But all in all, the last thing I need is anymore risk, esp since this is just for relaxation. Besides, who the hell wants a hangover, if I don't even get to drink??

Anyone have any info on Liquid Relaxation? All the ingredients seem good, and since its made up of a bunch of Aminos, it might have some additional benefits.

O14

[John Smeton]

Exactly , does Phenibut give hangovers? i know its a broad question but its either a yes or no i want a direct answer not on a scale of 1-10. yes or no

Holy ****! Thats seems like a lot. But all in all, the last thing I need is anymore risk, esp since this is just for relaxation. Besides, who the hell wants a hangover, if I don't even get to drink??

Anyone have any info on Liquid Relaxation? All the ingredients seem good, and since its made up of a bunch of Aminos, it might have some additional benefits.

O14

[Odessa14]

Well, it goes without saying that I have never tried it, but I have read a bunch of threads and many reviews and from what I can tell, yes.

[Grifter]

First time I used it tried 2 grams, nothing much so a few hours later took another 3. Kinda tipsy feeling a suppose nothing major. Next morning was a little grogy but was def in a better mood through out the day.

Uusually I use 9-12g each time to get noticable effects and I'm 165lbs(mabey I got the bad batch). Just makes me a little more relaxed though I have to say I dont really enjoy it that much so dont use it often and def never felt any inclings of becomming addicted.

DAMN! I would say you def. did not get a good batch. 12g of Phen would make me want to die i think. I started taking it at 2g it was ok. the next time i used 4g and felt pretty damn good. The time i tried 7g i was pretty out of it and had the longest hang over of my life. But the 7g was only my third time using it. I have started to become more Immune to it. It is not addictive at all to me. But i don't become addicted to stuff very easy. I guess if alcohol doesn't make you addicted neither will this.

[nevergoodenough]

I don't think I could addicted to the stuff because it tastes ****ing horrible. If I even think about the taste for a week after taking some I almost spew. I haven't taken in it in a few months and I'm getting nauseous thinking about it now. It definetly makes you sleep like a rock, I didn't notice a whole lot of effect when taken alone but mixed with kratom or a little booze and you'll be reeling. One night I took 2gs at 10 oclock pm and had a glass or two of wine and I was still ****ed up at 6pm the next day.

[Grifter]

Has anyone tried Psychotropin? If so, what is it like compared to phenibut?

[Pushofabutton]

Has anyone tried Psychotropin? If so, what is it like compared to phenibut?

I tried psychotropin when it first came out and its not even on the same lvl as bulknut's phenibut. I would rank psychotropin under neurostim.

[Rogue Drone]

9 to 12g is either a bad batch or an unbelieveably high tolerance to Benzos, that's just wrong.

Phenibut is much stronger in effect when taken on a empty stomach and what I like about 'but is the next day's afterglow, many users find that they feel happy the next day after using a large dose, must be some sort of Dopamine reuptake.

Try it, you'll probably like it, chances of becoming physically or psycholigically addicted to it are small, IMO.

[John Smeton]

i bought a bottlr about 1 1/2 ago ago and only used it once at like 800 mgs. I liked it my question is does the bottle of phenibut lose its effectiveness, after its opened and not used?

[fadi]

Keep in mind that some people would get withdrawal once they discontinue phenibut use. I actually had panic attacks worse than the simptoms that got me to use it once I stopped using it which was scary.