- 08-23-2005, 11:48 PM
- 08-23-2005, 11:50 PM
Originally Posted by DobermanXXL
- 08-23-2005, 11:57 PM
08-24-2005, 12:41 PM
It has a lot of caffiene in it, which combined with citrulline malate would counter the effects. I think.
08-24-2005, 03:23 PM
Did u start off with two or three scoops, I did about two and a half the first time and felt way to amped, start off with one scoop and build up, makes a big difference. No-explode is now my favorite preworkout stim.....
08-24-2005, 03:31 PM
i tried noxplode few months ago.. it was CRAZY. the first day i used it the scooper was so far down in the jar i just decided to use a different scooper cause i was so lazy. turns out i took the equivalent of about 4 scoops and i was sooooo friggen amped. eventually got the original scooper out, and the product worked great.
08-24-2005, 07:44 PM
I like using it but find the effects much more subtle. It doesn't get me amped up or cause diarrhea but I swear it keeps me focused. Could be it's all in my head but then again thats where it needs to be.
08-24-2005, 09:15 PM
I've finished a tub, I like this stuff as a pre-WO stim. But, with the (large from my opinion) amount of caffiene, it's not effective as an NO or creatine product.
Caffiene inhibits absorption of creatine and counteracts the NO products.
I'd love if that made a caffiene free version, just with some more nootropics.
08-24-2005, 09:31 PM
caffeine does not inhibit arginine activity
08-24-2005, 09:45 PM
It constricts blood vessels, but arginine supposedly dialates.
Sounds contradictory to me.
08-24-2005, 10:20 PM
Yeah jmh, the lady at the supp. store said the same thing, but I figured because of this there probably wasn't too much caffeine in it (since it doesn't say how many mg).
I used ONE scoop and felt this way... I never drink caffeine. I guess my body was too sensitive to this. Hopefully I can return it or sell it.
08-25-2005, 09:50 AM
for some reason I can't link you up to the finding but it concluded that:Originally Posted by jmh80
"Methyxanthines ( aka caffeine) INHIBITED ARGINASE ( argine breakdown) and left more arginine for Nitric Oxide production
do a search at BB.com under my name and try to find the link
08-25-2005, 07:30 PM
It feels like alot, 200 mg or so. I don't like that they don't list it.
Omega - I call uncle. So, it helps with Arg. I know it does not help with creatine. So, I say, the caffeine should go from the product.
(Not to mention ALRI's studies he posted saying that arginine and citrulline were also bad to couple w/ creatine.)
08-25-2005, 10:58 PM
Originally Posted by jmh80
citrulline has synergy with creatine bro
at least through Areobic channels
also one could argue that caffeine INCREASES uptake of creatine via the effect on the pancreas wich thus releases insulin
insulin rise would increase uptake
Diuresis may be an issue easily alleviated by increase h20 intake
-my 2 cents
08-25-2005, 11:03 PM
The effects of caffeine on creatine and NO products have been greatly exaggerated. Patrick Arnold discussed this somewhat recently WRT caff/Cit Mal specifically, and said there was no problem using both at once, and, if anything, the caffeine and citrulline malate may be synergystic.
08-26-2005, 12:23 AM
I read that he said that with Arginine
could have over looked the citrulline though
09-05-2005, 03:01 PM
Yep, even Patrick Arnold alluded to the fact that methylxanthines (caffeine esp.) provide a synergistic effect when combined w/ NO2 products, especially citrulline malate in a post on the musclegurus forum.
09-05-2005, 03:34 PM
Ronnie Coleman on NO explode : "This Stuff is INSANE!" Take that quote however you want...lol
09-06-2005, 01:25 PM
Caffeine does not constrict blood vessels, I think you are confusing it with ephedrine.
09-07-2005, 03:30 PM
He was paid to say that.Originally Posted by TheStud121
This being said, I spent the summer in China training with the national san shou team. (this is the sport - http://www.sanshou.com/footage/2003clip.html)
I trained twice a day for 3 hours a day, and took one scoop of NO-XPLODE before each session. I have to say that it gave me a lot more energy and I didn't get as mentally tired as I would normally. I'd like to say it helped recovery as well but I can't tell since I never trained 6 hours a day before taking this stuff.
09-07-2005, 11:24 PM
Actaully, caffeine constricts blood vessels as far as the brain is concerned. This is why caffeine is a common head ache cure. it blocks adenosine in the brain (which slows down/dialates vessels to allow sleep)... therefore causing them to constrict.
09-07-2005, 11:45 PM
I tried some for the first time today before working out.. I must say, I was damn near ready for bed and this stuff woke me up quick! I wasn't buzzed, but I was more alert and focused.. I plan to buy some more, I like the fruit punch flavor alot..
09-08-2005, 02:11 AM
Damn I didn't get anything from it, and I'm super sensitive to stims... I took one cap of yohimbe and couldn't close my eyes for 5 hours cuz my eyelids would keep twitching. I have gone as high as 3 scoops, it just sits on my fridge now lol.
09-08-2005, 06:22 PM
Thats weird.. theres gotta be at LEAST 200mg caffeine in it...
09-08-2005, 06:47 PM
LMAO....I was being Humorous....hahahahahaOriginally Posted by cretinx
09-08-2005, 11:34 PM
I tried it last week for the first time. I'm doing two scoops before workouts and I'm lifting heavier than the previous week by far. My blood pressure goes up which is a bit of an uneasy feeling. Overall it feels good and the pumps on this are awesome.
09-10-2005, 01:14 AM
Anyone here stacking this with a PH?
Was going to do an SD or M1T cycle in the next couple weeks, and wondered if I could get an extra pump with Xplode.
09-10-2005, 03:26 PM
im rockin three scoops, best preworkout for me. except the NOxplosive diahrea isn't too fun
09-11-2005, 09:57 AM
I thought NO products decrease your blood pressure? Unless its the other ingredients that are increasing your blood pressure.Originally Posted by engineerdude
09-11-2005, 10:08 AM
I was under the same impression. Vasolidators (NO releasing products) cause the blood vessels to expand allowing more bloodflow (Viagra, Cialis ect.) therefore relieving blood pressure and dropping it. I'm not that great with words but it only makes sense. My theory would be the caffeine or other ingredients causing anxiety in turn causing a rise in blood pressure?Originally Posted by Adf
09-11-2005, 10:49 AM
I take no-xplode before every workout, but when I took it while on SD, the B.P. went up to the point before i got to the gym I already had a headache, be careful when mixing these two, but I am very sensitive to stims, good luck.......
09-12-2005, 02:15 PM
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. I'm lucky in that I very rarely experience side effects from supplements- even on M1T I was only slightly lethargic (and that was from a dosage timing issue) and had very very mild back pumps. So, I may decide to give it a try. Luckily, I've been blessed with very solid B.P.- its always exactly the same when I get it measured.Originally Posted by RipdnTxs
09-19-2005, 05:58 PM
We have BSN products 10% off for you AM memebers who use NO-Xplode.
09-19-2005, 11:58 PM
That on any BSN product or just the NO-Xplode? I plan to make an order soon..Originally Posted by biggunther
09-20-2005, 11:15 AM
that sounds like a good stack, what is your PCT gonna be?Originally Posted by shatfield
and I would believe that it would just increase your pumps
09-20-2005, 12:01 PM
I've been lucky enough with using only ATD for my PCTs, I tend to rebound pretty quickly and easily, so I haven't needed anything more than that.Originally Posted by SVTMuscle
I've been using NO Xplode for a week now, going to start Emax next week for 2 weeks and then SD for the third week. I'm anxious to see if there'll be a difference with using the NO X.
09-20-2005, 02:52 PM
please explain what ATD and Emax is, im sure i know what they are, i just havnt heard that termonology yetOriginally Posted by shatfield
09-20-2005, 02:56 PM
All BSN products are 10% off. Right now we are loading everything with us due to the hurricane so it may take a day or two to ship out.Originally Posted by bigpetefox
09-29-2005, 03:14 PM
I just recieved my NO-Expload. I was wondering if you guys could help me out.
It says to consume on an empty stomach, I plan on taking it 30 minutes before training on an empty stomach. I usually take a during workout drink (isolate,bcaa,malto,CEE), do you think this will cause a problem? or should i just have a larger postworkout drink?
Also, Should i not take CEE during this time? How about Citrulline malate? No expload has it in it, but im thinking its not a large amount.
Lastly, is it neccesary to take this on off training days? Id like my bottle to last as long as possible.
09-29-2005, 03:28 PM
It's fine to take wtih your during workout drink, and if you take a pre-workout shake do that after the NO-explode.Originally Posted by ABiLiTY
Keep taking CEE and citulline malate it doesn't matter with the no-ex.
Only take on workout days or when you want a light energy boost on off days.
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