Is Trimax for me? Please help!
- 07-28-2005, 09:17 AM
First of all, thanks for the input. I also recieved some good feedback/info from Dr.D and Robboe... thanks!
Presuming that some blood work I'm doing comes back ok, I'm going to start the Superdrol/1-Test/Trimax stack I proposed above in a couple of weeks from now. If there is any interest, I'll be glad to create a log and report regarding it.
- 07-28-2005, 11:35 AM
Originally Posted by Syr
Cell Mol Life Sci. 2003 Sep;60(9):1957-67. Related Articles, Links
Potent thermogenic action of triiodothyroacetic acid in brown adipocytes.
Medina-Gomez G, Hernandez A, Calvo RM, Martin E, Obregon MJ.
Instituto Investigaciones Biomedicas (C.S.I.C.-UAM), Arturo Duperier 4, 28029 Madrid, Spain.
Triiodothyroacetic acid (TRIAC) is a triiodothyronine (T3) metabolite with high affinity for T3 nuclear receptors. We compared the thermogenic action of TRIAC versus T3 in brown adipocytes, by studying target genes known to mediate thermogenic action: uncoupling protein 1 (UCP-1), a marker of brown adipocytes, and type II-5'deiodinase (D2), which provides the T3 required for thermogenesis. TRIAC is 10-50 times more potent than T3 at increasing the adrenergic induction of UCP-1 mRNA and D2 activities. TRIAC action on UCP-1 is exerted at the transcriptional level. In the presence of an adrenergic stimulus, TRIAC is also more potent than T3, inducing lipoprotein lipase mRNA and 5 deiodinase (D3) activity and mRNA. Maximal effects occur at very low concentrations (0.2 nM). The greater potency of TRIAC is not due to preferential cellular or nuclear uptake. Therefore, TRIAC is a potent thermogenic agent that might increase energy expenditure and regulate T3 production in brown adipocytes.
PMID: 14523556 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
07-28-2005, 11:45 AM
No but that's very useful that demonstrate that triac is actually more potent than T3 towards lipolisis.Originally Posted by turkish
The one I found said in short that triac suppressed the thyroid gland more than T3.
07-28-2005, 11:56 AM
IF T3 shuts down your thyroid like triac does, it doesn't really matter, does it? At the point of complete shutdown, you're still at the same state when you come off of it. What's the difference? However, if T3 suppresses SOME of the thyroid function and doesn't completely shut it down, I can see it's usefulness.
07-28-2005, 12:09 PM
Yeah, I've seen many concluding this on PubMed.Originally Posted by Syr
But does the fact that it's more suppressive doesn't necessarily mean it's also more potent in lipolysis, right?
07-28-2005, 12:12 PM
No the point is that your gland will recover slower with triac. At low doses of course T3 wont shut you down completely (as will do T4 and T2 but someone dont respond well to those because may lack something that makes the pathway for conversion to T3.Originally Posted by not_big_enuf
07-28-2005, 12:14 PM
Many studies say triac is way more suppressive than t3. And we know that triac shuts you down big time. Therefore, what I conclude is t3 suppresses you only partially.Originally Posted by not_big_enuf
07-28-2005, 12:16 PM
07-28-2005, 01:51 PM
07-28-2005, 04:25 PM
So Trimiax is therefore more catabolic as well? I know this is all dosage dependent however.Originally Posted by Syr
07-29-2005, 09:31 AM
Yeah, it seems from this discussion and those posts that Trimax is more effective which means more catabolic and more suppressive just by its very nature.
Like I said, I'm going to do this cycle soon, including Trimax, so if anyone wants to see how it goes with me, just let me know... if I get enough interest I'll keep a log here... otherwise, I can just keep in touch with a few interested persons and let 'em know how it goes...
07-30-2005, 05:30 AM
I've had a chanced to use Trimax both on and off cycle and after 3 cycles worth I feel I can give some strong input.
1) Rebound is there. If you know it is coming then you can be prepared. I find 5-15 days after use is the trouble zone. Make sure you are eating strict after use and you will have no problems.
2) Sides? Lethargy is a very big factor. 4 mg/day is going to increase your T3 levels so far over baseline that you should feel tired. Your metabolism will literally be on 3rd gear. I find running Trimax requires an extra hour of sleep at night on average.
3) Fat Burning? Like butter. It has been the only product I used and had my expectations blow away. You will be able to see literal day-by-day body recomp.
Muscle loss is a possibility. The cycle I ran off cycle at 20% BF was worth it in fat/muscle loss ratio. At a low BF% I wouldn't suggest using it alone. A few people have noted muscle gain AND fat loss. This is very much possible because protein synthesis should be elevated.
My next Trimax cycle I am going to attempt cal cycling for both fat loss and muscle gain. Hopefully I can get a log up here with that in a few months. Should be interesting.
Also, There was some very good bloodwork in the Trimax thread. Expect TSH to be 0.0 while on Trimax.
07-30-2005, 05:47 AM
I suggest taking forskolin and/or guggul for the 3 weeks after a T3 or trimax cycle for this very reason. 7oh or clen could help too avoid a fat rebound.Originally Posted by doggzj
07-30-2005, 12:46 PM
If one were to take this triac thing... Is it legally available? And , most importantly, how do you get your thyroid back up? 7oxo?
07-31-2005, 06:01 PM
I've read somewhere that running t3 or triac on a 2 days on / 2 days off protocol gives equal results while suppressing the thyroid a LOT less... AND using half the product. Anyone with experience on this?
07-31-2005, 06:17 PM
10-09-2005, 02:19 PM
No sadly Triac is not legally available, and unless you have some secret source with tons of the stuff stashed away, you probably aren't going to be able to get it either. I have searched high and low to buy some Trimax, and NO ONE carries it, and it has been discontinued. So, the only other way i could see about buying it is if a company sells it as a "research chemical."Originally Posted by ss01
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