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  1. Quote Originally Posted by AdelV View Post
    Outbreak Nutrition - Build

    The formula behind Outbreak Nutrition Build is based around the proven ingredient, Mediator phosphatidic acid. The brand has included the compound at its full amount of 1.5g (750mg active) per serving, although as mentioned, there is more to the supplement than just phosphatidic acid.

    longside the above ingredient, Outbreak Nutrition has packed Build with four other compounds. Also in the mix is 300mg of rosemary extract for 50% ursolic acid, 75mg of laxogenin (5-alpha-hydroxy-laxogenin), 200mg of pomegranate for 80mg of active ellagic acid, and lastly, 50mg of AstraGin to enhance the absorption of everything.

    It should be out anyday now.
    Is phosphotidic acid worth taking at times other than pre-workout?
    Or say if I’ve already taken 15g pre-workout that day, would takin more with dinner be beneficial?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Whey View Post
    A little off topic but a pre workout version with a nootropic would be bada$$. Id would take that for just about anything, workouts, sports, work, parties...
    What type of nootropic are you looking for?
    Something to help you generally feel good, more focus, , greater drive, delayed fatigue...?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by u_e_s_i View Post
    Are there any exciting natty anabolics currently in the works?
    Keto keeps you very Anabolic .
    Knowledge is power- The power to do your part and make a difference.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by soxbsbll05 View Post
    Definitely will be trying that one out! There has been no updated info on it though since June. Is there a supposed release date yet?
    It should be very soon, an ingredient was held at customs I was told.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by u_e_s_i View Post
    Is phosphotidic acid worth taking at times other than pre-workout?
    Or say if I’ve already taken 15g pre-workout that day, would takin more with dinner be beneficial?
    I believe dosages used currently are worked out based on studies, so I don't see how a little more would hurt.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by u_e_s_i View Post
    What type of nootropic are you looking for?
    Something to help you generally feel good, more focus, , greater drive, delayed fatigue...?
    That all sounds good - feel good, more focus, greater drive, delayed fatigue...

    I don't have much experience with nootropics. I've tried a sample of ANS Performance Rave - not bad. I usually dose with Phenibut - fortunately I am not prone to addictions besides cigarettes. Also at the same time I don't want to be abusing Phenibut everyday just to go work out.

    A pre workout with not a whole lot of sketch, jitters and a strong nootropic effect similar to Phenibut would be cool if possible.


    Working in a corporate environment can be toxic, lots of jealousy, then leaving that s*** behind. Going back to my real self. Total opposite ego is a huge personality clash. Living in both worlds can be exhausting.

    There are days after work... I go to the gym and I just want to drink a pre work out/nootropic and wash all that B.S away. Beat the s*** out of some weights, rip apart muscle fibers, feel a pump. Get to my goals. So yea, nootropic like you describe would be awesome for just about anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbombsquad View Post
    Keto keeps you very Anabolic .
    Are you sure about that? Studies Iíve read show it is great at preserving muscle while losing fat (so anti-catabolic), but not optimal for building muscle. Not all that dissimilar from IF really.
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  8. Correct me if Iím wrong but I thought PA was shown to be not as effective as originally thought?
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    Are you sure about that? Studies Iíve read show it is great at preserving muscle while losing fat (so anti-catabolic), but not optimal for building muscle. Not all that dissimilar from IF really.
    https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/arti...970-018-0236-9
    Stack that with the essential aminos hmb and hica and that could be a good combo .
    Knowledge is power- The power to do your part and make a difference.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by justhere4comm View Post
    We are working on another.
    Just about to run F2 is the new one a tweaked vector or a new one altogether may try this new one after this run

  11. It's all new from what I know.
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  12. Thanks for reply going to give these natty products a go I’ve been recomping on ostarine and thinking these would probably do the job without suppression and a pct etc,

  13. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    Are you sure about that? Studies I’ve read show it is great at preserving muscle while losing fat (so anti-catabolic), but not optimal for building muscle. Not all that dissimilar from IF really.
    https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/arti...970-018-0236-9
    I took that as tongue in cheek!! lol. Who needs insulin driving stuff into cells anyway :-) I hate muscle glycogen. :-)

  14. Quote Originally Posted by DaeshDontSurf View Post
    I took that as tongue in cheek!! lol. Who needs insulin driving stuff into cells anyway :-) I hate muscle glycogen. :-)
    Ok. That makes sense haha. My internet sarcasm detector needs to be recalibrated.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    Ok. That makes sense haha. My internet sarcasm detector needs to be recalibrated.
    Well, i could be wrong too!!!!!! maybe he was for realz?

  16. just ordered 1 ea. FD and Vector

  17. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    Are you sure about that? Studies I’ve read show it is great at preserving muscle while losing fat (so anti-catabolic), but not optimal for building muscle. Not all that dissimilar from IF really.
    https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/arti...970-018-0236-9
    http://anabolicminds.com/articles/ti...-muscle-36393/

    I agree that theoretically, keto shouldn’t be optimal for building muscle

  18. Quote Originally Posted by u_e_s_i View Post
    http://anabolicminds.com/articles/ti...-muscle-36393/

    I agree that theoretically, keto shouldnít be optimal for building muscle
    Yep, but this isnít theoretical anymore, right? It was theoretical before human studies were conducted. Now itís been shown. It may not be irrefutable yet, but itís a start, and is entirely logical.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Whey View Post
    That all sounds good - feel good, more focus, greater drive, delayed fatigue...

    I don't have much experience with nootropics. I've tried a sample of ANS Performance Rave - not bad. I usually dose with Phenibut - fortunately I am not prone to addictions besides cigarettes. Also at the same time I don't want to be abusing Phenibut everyday just to go work out.

    A pre workout with not a whole lot of sketch, jitters and a strong nootropic effect similar to Phenibut would be cool if possible.


    Working in a corporate environment can be toxic, lots of jealousy, then leaving that s*** behind. Going back to my real self. Total opposite ego is a huge personality clash. Living in both worlds can be exhausting.

    There are days after work... I go to the gym and I just want to drink a pre work out/nootropic and wash all that B.S away. Beat the s*** out of some weights, rip apart muscle fibers, feel a pump. Get to my goals. So yea, nootropic like you describe would be awesome for just about anything.
    Ahaha I get that feeling after work and tutorials sometimes. It is nice just having some time to myself whilst I chase and smash PBs.

    Sorry for the delay, spent a few days at a music festival.

    For a lil boost to help ‘feel good’ and to deal with stress, I’ve read good reviews about substances called Kannaease and rhodiola rosea.
    Personally, I consume rhodiola daily as it’s a component of PES shift. This is a personal staple as it makes calorie control that much easier and generally helps me feel energetic and get stuff done.
    Kannaease, is a component of my pre called Re1gn by Olympus Labs. They’re a very reputable company at the forefront of bodybuilding supplementation. My experiences with Re1gn have been good although I can’t really compare and contrast as I trust and have read that it’s amongst the best if not the best pre available. I take it pre-workout, before nights out and possibly before a long day if I don’t have a workout scheduled for later on. On it, I generally feel pretty good and energetic.

    On mornings when I’m fasting, I might take something called norcodrene, also from PES. As Re1gn contains sucralose, norcodrene is a bette option for fasted mornings. I basically don’t drink coffee anymore as norcodrene is just better lol. I’ve noticed that there’s a feel good factor whilst on it and so stacked with PES shift, I feel pretty darn good and stressful endeavours don’t feel so stressful.

    Particularly pre-workout I like to stack Re1gn and shift with some bulk L-carnitine, theanine, tyrosine (descriptions below) and Korean or Siberian ginseng. If you do some price comparing and get this stuff powdered in bulk, they really don’t cost much.

    I’ve come across some other substances like huperzine-A, DMAE, phosphatidyl-serine and lion’s mane and I can give a brief description of those

    Theanine
    Helps to mellow out caffeine and prevent jitters without inhibiting it’s stimulant action.

    Tyrosine
    Increases dopamine and thus increase energy and determination whilst offsetting stress

    Huperzine-A
    Increases focus.

    DMAE
    Increases the amount of choline in the brain and so improves reaction times

    Phosphatidyl-serine
    Increases focus. Personally however I’ve found that this may increase focus a lil too much for chilled conversations. It is known to help offset cortisol production during workouts tho

    Lion’s mane
    Offsets stress and increases feelings of general well-being

    Just a quick notes. I’ve read da that ohenibut should be cycled to avoid developing dependency so please be careful.

    You can find some nootropic blends on amazon but so far I’ve found my usual mix to be perfectly adequate. If you’re looking for something more though you could take a look there. I’d just be wary of ones with caffeine added as over the course of a day the caffeine can add up and elevate cortisol more than is optimal
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdelV View Post
    Outbreak Nutrition - Build

    The formula behind Outbreak Nutrition Build is based around the proven ingredient, Mediator phosphatidic acid. The brand has included the compound at its full amount of 1.5g (750mg active) per serving, although as mentioned, there is more to the supplement than just phosphatidic acid.

    longside the above ingredient, Outbreak Nutrition has packed Build with four other compounds. Also in the mix is 300mg of rosemary extract for 50% ursolic acid, 75mg of laxogenin (5-alpha-hydroxy-laxogenin), 200mg of pomegranate for 80mg of active ellagic acid, and lastly, 50mg of AstraGin to enhance the absorption of everything.

    It should be out anyday now.
    60 bucks for only 20 servings though?

    (Just curious if the label is correct lol!)

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Rad83 View Post
    60 bucks for only 20 servings though?

    (Just curious if the label is correct lol!)
    That stuff is underdosed and not worth it.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Rockzilla View Post
    That stuff is underdosed and not worth it.
    https://youtu.be/eku6FgjOnno

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Rad83 View Post
    60 bucks for only 20 servings though?

    (Just curious if the label is correct lol!)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rockzilla View Post
    That stuff is underdosed and not worth it.
    It's only meant to be taken on work out days, and you can find a 30% code sometimes.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by AdelV View Post
    It's only meant to be taken on work out days, and you can find a 30% code sometimes.
    It would last someone working out 3 times a week (assuming only weight lifting days) 7 2/3s of a week. And someone who lifts 6 days a week 3 2/7 weeks. The bare minimum PA dose, and weak doses on everything else. You are better off spending money on one of those ingredients that are fully dosed. Not even sure what ellagic acid or astragin is gonna do for you.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by AdelV View Post
    It's only meant to be taken on work out days, and you can find a 30% code sometimes.
    Did any of the studies actually use workout-day-only dosing? I get that the theory is that its most useful/effective on workout days compared to rest days, but I still recall all of the studies still dosing it every day. Are there any new studies that used workout-day only dosing?
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