DHEA vs Dermacrine

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  1. DHEA vs Dermacrine


    so I thought Id share my thoughts... been on transdermal DHEA for about 3 weeks now and slowly ive been feeling 'normal'.

    Low Test confirmed but doc unenthusiastic.

    So, Ive got some dermacrine and been taking 3 squirts for the last 5 days and my libido has tanked and 'down there' is aa if im in a cold swimming pool.

    So, im dosing transdermal dhea and dermacrine alternatiing daily - but my Q, whats in derma that isnt in straight dhea what could make me feel this and do i need to lower dose maybe?

    LJ100 just turned up so things could now change but just wondering what I should be adjusting.

  2. DHEA vs Dermacrine


    Subbed. Would love to see bloodwork before and after. I知 so sick of DHEA and pregnenolone caps and would like an effective transdermal to use instead.
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  3. i prefer dermacrine over regular caps....but I've never taken dhea with pregnenlone before

    wish derm was a little less lotion and also can be tricky if you put it on and have to shower shortly after for whatever reason or if you are going swimming
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  4. rubbed it on the nuts and getting a different effect... may have to do two up top one on the 'lads' for some dht

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Toff View Post
    rubbed it on the nuts and getting a different effect... may have to do two up top one on the 'lads' for some dht
    That痴 because a certain study found that there is a bit higher 5-ar on the scrotal area.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Toff View Post
    so I thought Id share my thoughts... been on transdermal DHEA for about 3 weeks now and slowly ive been feeling 'normal'.

    Low Test confirmed but doc unenthusiastic.

    So, Ive got some dermacrine and been taking 3 squirts for the last 5 days and my libido has tanked and 'down there' is aa if im in a cold swimming pool.

    So, im dosing transdermal dhea and dermacrine alternatiing daily - but my Q, whats in derma that isnt in straight dhea what could make me feel this and do i need to lower dose maybe?

    LJ100 just turned up so things could now change but just wondering what I should be adjusting.
    I知 on dermacrine now and have been for almost 2 months and my libido is off the hook.

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    Some anabolics can lead to extensive hair loss in some men due to DHEA converting to DHT, which can trigger alopecia. Pregenelone was added to Dermacrine to counteract this unwanted conversion and prevent hair loss, while providing improved focus and memory at the same time.

    Anti-estrogen complex

    Anabolic hormones sometimes convert to estrogen, which can lead excessive water retention in muscles and eventual loss of gains. This is why Dermacrine contains an anti-estrogen complex made up of several hormones. This complex blocks estrogenic effects and prevents their possible negative side effects. These hormones also improve your sex drive and erectile function in the process.

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  7. I can vouch for Derma on the sac! Gave me crazy energy and libido!

  8. Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post
    Subbed. Would love to see bloodwork before and after. I’m so sick of DHEA and pregnenolone caps and would like an effective transdermal to use instead.
    @kenpoengineer hey mark, if you want to give dermacrine a try use my code THEBIGT at iconicformulations.com and save 25%.



    dermacrine is so much better than dhea/preg caps!!!
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    @kenpoengineer hey mark, if you want to give dermacrine a try use my code THEBIGT at iconicformulations.com and save 25%.



    dermacrine is so much better than dhea/preg caps!!!
    I知 interested as this is perfect timing. I just had DHEA-S bloodwork and want to see if this transdermal works for me. Thanks big guy!
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  10. Do you need any pct after Dermacine and can you dose before bed?

  11. Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post
    I’m interested as this is perfect timing. I just had DHEA-S bloodwork and want to see if this transdermal works for me. Thanks big guy!
    it would be awesome if you could post before and after bloods!!!

    thanks, mark!!!
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by BBiceps View Post
    Do you need any pct after Dermacine and can you dose before bed?
    no pct is required, but running sustain alpha after would definitely have you covered.



    I always use dermacrine in the mornings for the energy boost, it might interfere with sleep if using before bed....personally I've never used before bed.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    no pct is required, but running sustain alpha after would definitely have you covered.



    I always use dermacrine in the mornings for the energy boost, it might interfere with sleep if using before bed....personally I've never used before bed.
    I use 3 shots before bed since I知 running iconogenin in AM. No sleep issues
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    no pct is required, but running sustain alpha after would definitely have you covered.



    I always use dermacrine in the mornings for the energy boost, it might interfere with sleep if using before bed....personally I've never used before bed.
    So dermacrine isn't suppressive?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by chainsaw View Post
    So dermacrine isn't suppressive?
    Yes, it is (the other guys here are reps).

    If youre on trt you wont care. If you arent on trt you need to take a break.

    Also, check your dosage.. too many go "I take 5 pumps" - that's great.. but you need to measure your intake of dhea - and at roughly 15mg per squirt, you only need 2-3 tops. Some docs freak out at over 5mg so 50mg is the 'other docs' safe limit. The anti-e properties i think affect libido the most as i dont get it with straight dhea topical (recommend iconic formulations)

    im going to stak with 7-keto, noones doing a sensible priced one, so im going to health stores for this one, ive seen topical for $10.. they also do $11 dhea and progestoerone, so im going to check those out too (being impartial).

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  16. I had bloods done at 5 weeks on td dhea & preg. test was still low at 10nmol but DHEAs was at 5500

  17. Quote Originally Posted by BennyMagoo79 View Post
    I had bloods done at 5 weeks on td dhea & preg. test was still low at 10nmol but DHEAs was at 5500
    Which product were you running and at what dosage, please?
    May I suggest using this app to track your bloodwork tests:
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    it would be awesome if you could post before and after bloods!!!

    thanks, mark!!!
    Rob agreed to send me a couple of bottles to run. I値l post up my current DHEA and pregnenolone labs and then run a full course of the transdermals. Once finished, I値l get final bloodwork.

    I知 looking forward to seeing how this makes me feel and how bloodwork levels look.
    May I suggest using this app to track your bloodwork tests:
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post
    Which product were you running and at what dosage, please?
    Iconic formulations neuro stack, at 1ml (100mg) DHEA - split am and pm - and .5ml (50mg) preg - pm only - per day.

  20. More bloods coming next week after 4 weeks of 50mg dhea & 50mg preg. I actually feel better on this dosage. Also, should mention i have been putting about 25mg dhea on the nuts. Not the preg though, it burns my nutsack: only did that once.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by BennyMagoo79 View Post
    More bloods coming next week after 4 weeks of 50mg dhea & 50mg preg. I actually feel better on this dosage. Also, should mention i have been putting about 25mg dhea on the nuts. Not the preg though, it burns my nutsack: only did that once.
    Look forward to seeing the bloodwork. Thank you.
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  22. So I see two articles about “incomplete males” and now we’re putting dermacrine on our nuts? Are u you guys messing with people? Please let me know, im about to rub dermacrine on my nuts and shaft based on two articles about transgenders.

  23. very interesting thread going here ha... subbed
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Toff View Post
    Yes, it is
    Suppressive to what, specifically? When I "researched" this awhile back I couldnt find any decent study or respected opinion showing exo-DHEA to be suppressive.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post
    Rob agreed to send me a couple of bottles to run. I’ll post up my current DHEA and pregnenolone labs and then run a full course of the transdermals. Once finished, I’ll get final bloodwork.

    I’m looking forward to seeing how this makes me feel and how bloodwork levels look.
    fantastic, Rob is a good guy!!!
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