Where are you getting your D from? Lot's of whole food sources and the Sun? I agree (even though I'm a hypocrite here) that a 25 Hydroxy test should be done. But I don't get a lot of Sun, even in the Summer - so I do 10,000/Day on a guess, and based on the data showing perfect sun exposure at peak times, for a certain amount of time - yields 10,000iu max, before the body shuts off production. Been doing it for years by now (5?) The good thing about D is that toxicity requires millions of IU's (The mislabeled supps, and the guy that worked in a Vit D facility) and treatment is some Prednisone and staying out of the Sun for a bit. The Sun is the best source though - some additional chemical benefits you can't get with oral dosing. F It - I'm getting a 25OHD test this next go round of TRT blood work!
Do you take K2 with it? If so, mk4 or mk7? Was going to order one with 5,000 iu d3 and 100 mcg of mk7 but wanted to make that's the best type.Where are you getting your D from? Lot's of whole food sources and the Sun? I agree (even though I'm a hypocrite here) that a 25 Hydroxy test should be done. But I don't get a lot of Sun, even in the Summer - so I do 10,000/Day on a guess, and based on the data showing perfect sun exposure at peak times, for a certain amount of time - yields 10,000iu max, before the body shuts off production. Been doing it for years by now (5?) The good thing about D is that toxicity requires millions of IU's (The mislabeled supps, and the guy that worked in a Vit D facility) and treatment is some Prednisone and staying out of the Sun for a bit. The Sun is the best source though - some additional chemical benefits you can't get with oral dosing. F It - I'm getting a 25OHD test this next go round of TRT blood work!
MK7 is the way to go! 100-200mic are fine
I do, and the best value I found was LEF 'Super-K'.
I recently bought a bottle of Super-K, and can confirm that it was the best value I could find.
how is your test level, is it low?
Was going say same thing saw a study Vit D should be taken with K2. A combo pill seems expensive..
Yes, it was. TRT fixed that immediately, but my D level did not change until going through the trial and error above.
Exactly another point...
I think you may have a pretty big typo there. I just looked at the product on mm and it lists just 1,000 iu per serving.
I was using 50,000 / day and it didn't.
Biotics Research Bio D Forte
Biotics Research Bio D Forte
do you take it in the morning? if you use fish oil, ingest these two compounds together. use it in the morning; vitamin d can influence your sleep if taken in the evening, already heard that from a buch of people
Take it when the sun is out - ancient humans didn't make any at 9PM
why?
thats true but 4000 i.u are safe to consume without blookwork. i personally wouldnt go higher than 5000i.u - if not prescribed by a doctor.
Holy ius batman, daily?
Indicates that MK7 has negligibly bioavailabiilty. MK4 has at least partial bioavailability. This doesn't demonstrate anything else beyond that. It doesn't demonstrate any of this nonsense about increasing testosterone and it doesn't indicate that it's a superior form of vitamin K to the plant-based version.
Indicates that MK7 has negligibly bioavailabiilty. MK4 has at least partial bioavailability. This doesn't demonstrate anything else beyond that. It doesn't demonstrate any of this nonsense about increasing testosterone and it doesn't indicate that it's a superior form of vitamin K to the plant-based version.
Indicates that MK7 has negligibly bioavailabiilty. MK4 has at least partial bioavailability. This doesn't demonstrate anything else beyond that. It doesn't demonstrate any of this nonsense about increasing testosterone and it doesn't indicate that it's a superior form of vitamin K to the plant-based version.
Indicates that MK7 has negligibly bioavailabiilty. MK4 has at least partial bioavailability. This doesn't demonstrate anything else beyond that. It doesn't demonstrate any of this nonsense about increasing testosterone and it doesn't indicate that it's a superior form of vitamin K to the plant-based version.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17158229/
you can buy both separately?
It has better absorption and results in better efficacy for one indicator by 2-3 fold, but you end up using 2 times less to avoid issues with anticoagulant activity. At the end of the day, if there are no unique benefits and all of the epidemiological data for vitamin K intake are based upon the plant-based version, what is the point in using MK7? You can take 50 ug instead of 100 ug of K1? I don't really see that as a benefit unless it saves the consumer money.
ill look it up, thank you. im always open to get new information and ill admit that im wrong if that is the case! but for now my point of view is, that mk7 is either better or as good as mk4, depends on how much you weight each study, right?
point is why change what works to a more expensive less studied form?
There's Jarrow K-Right (it's what I just ordered). It has 2,000 iu d3 (figured I'd start there and maybe add more later), 500 mcg K1, 1,500 mcg MK-4 and 180 mcg MK-7 (VitaMK7). It's a little pricey at about $0.50/softgel but does have pretty good doses (maybe a little low on d3 though).
d3 is cheap if you wanted to add more, looks like a comprehensive formula.
