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    Has anyone here ever used this compound with success?
    The more I read on this the more excited I get about it, i think of it as an addition to a PCT to help with the 'fatigue' associated with clomid that most experience including myself.
    I've read long jack somewhat helps at increasing androgen levels but there is no clinical studies I found to back it up.
    Is also an afrodisiac so i am thinking maybe mixing it with some cialis will make a killer combo. Or maybe some NO2 , ethyl arginine and maca extract as a more of a natural approach.

    please share your experiences

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    I am currently using it and have used it as part of PCT in the past. It increases my acne, my nuts are fuller, and my libido is greater while on it. The acne is almost immediate, but the nads and libido take about a week. Out of all the herbal test / libido boosters that I've tried, it's the only one that I can notice a difference. I'm not convinced it will do much for the clomid fatigue though.
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    I know others here like longjack, but since you had these effects and you're around the same age, how much are you taking?
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    Great for an addition to any PCT, but not much of a stand alone...One of the very few herbs known to increase testosterone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrgg
    I know others here like longjack, but since you had these effects and you're around the same age, how much are you taking?
    I bought the 100:1 extract from 1fast400. I capped it at 230mg per pill - was shooting for 250 but ended up a little light. I've been taking 230mg two times a day on an empty stomach.
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    Thanks... Too bad they're out-of-stock. :-(
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    If I remember right, BAC also sold the 100:1 extract but it cost more.
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    If this herb raises test levels, would it be possible to make it ultra concentrated to get better effect. Isn't that how they made activate, but making nettle root highly concentrated. I don't know anyone care to comment.
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    def use custom if you want to cap and save money. But another alternative is RedKat from Biotest, i know before you pelt me with rotten tomatoes, it was a killer libido booster when i used it a year ago, after a m1t cycle. And after m1t my libido was after Redkat and tribulus i was lifting tables with random wood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b_delgros
    If this herb raises test levels, would it be possible to make it ultra concentrated to get better effect. Isn't that how they made activate, but making nettle root highly concentrated. I don't know anyone care to comment.
    Good idea but many others have already thought of this. With regular Long Jack you would have to eat it by the kilo - the Long Jack that we are refering to is already a 100:1 extract. That's as high as it gets for this stuff right now.
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    It acts like gyno in a bottle to me. I can't use it regularly, but do enjoy it's benifits for "situational" efects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by former_SlimJim
    Good idea but many others have already thought of this. With regular Long Jack you would have to eat it by the kilo - the Long Jack that we are refering to is already a 100:1 extract. That's as high as it gets for this stuff right now.

    I have to bring back this old thread because, I really like long jack and it has clinical studies to back it up. Yes, there is extracts of 1:50 1:100 and 1:200 but there is alot of controversy over which form works the best. And as I asked back in November about a higher extract, now Biosciences has made Alpha Male which is supposed to be a better extraction of Long Jack, anyone care to comment?
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    BUMP for this thread and some feedback. We just picked up the 100:1, and are offering an initial sale.

    I got to try it this week...impressive.
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    I have always been a big fan of long jack. It always gives me a boost. It seems to work best as an offset to post cycle depression.
    I feel stronger on it, but I am not sure if that is from a test boost because it doesn't feel like that kind of test surge. I am currently mixing it with cissus, rhodiola and bacopa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anabolicrhino
    I have always been a big fan of long jack. It always gives me a boost. It seems to work best as an offset to post cycle depression.
    I feel stronger on it, but I am not sure if that is from a test boost because it doesn't feel like that kind of test surge. I am currently mixing it with cissus, rhodiola and bacopa.
    We'll soon be looking to do a capped product. How do you like the combo?

    I have access to GREAT extracts of:

    Epimedium
    Divanyl
    Fenugreek
    MACA
    Tribulus
    Muira Puama
    Catuaba

    any feedback for a libido enhancement stack (powder) or capped product?
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    i love the ingrediants you listed the only thing i would add is cnindium not sure of spelling, but you put that stuff in a cap and i will buy.
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    Is there a Lonjack supp that's capped or is it just powder/DIY? (Just Longjack nothing else)
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    Are all these (extracts) sold in bulk form at Nutraplanet? You have my attention!

    Quote Originally Posted by dsade
    We'll soon be looking to do a capped product. How do you like the combo?

    I have access to GREAT extracts of:

    Epimedium
    Divanyl
    Fenugreek
    MACA
    Tribulus
    Muira Puama
    Catuaba

    any feedback for a libido enhancement stack (powder) or capped product?
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve777
    Are all these (extracts) sold in bulk form at Nutraplanet? You have my attention!
    They soon will be in, and offered as a stack option like the Ultimate MassPump Stack currently offered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halljo
    Is there a Lonjack supp that's capped or is it just powder/DIY? (Just Longjack nothing else)
    This will soon be an option
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade
    They soon will be in, and offered as a stack option like the Ultimate MassPump Stack currently offered.
    Great! It would be nice to purchase them as individual bulk powders too (likre the long jack is). I perfer bulk powder vs capped. Just provides more flexibility!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    We'll soon be looking to do a capped product. How do you like the combo?

    I have access to GREAT extracts of:

    Epimedium
    Divanyl
    Fenugreek
    MACA
    Tribulus
    Muira Puama
    Catuaba

    any feedback for a libido enhancement stack (powder) or capped product?
    sounds great capped
    all the stuff I would pack in... I'd kill the tribulus though and replace it with long jack.
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    Dsade said a while back that he had found a way to concentrate higher extracts of Long Jack, I wonder if he has found a way yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by b_delgros View Post
    Dsade said a while back that he had found a way to concentrate higher extracts of Long Jack, I wonder if he has found a way yet?
    Yes.
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    one of the meetings i just finished was with my new extractions expert. we should have an advanced, ultra strong concentration option soon on many compounds.
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    Just remember that the real extract tastes terrible. I once bought cheap 1:100 which tasted kinda sweet and the effect.. none whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    one of the meetings i just finished was with my new extractions expert. we should have an advanced, ultra strong concentration option soon on many compounds.
    dsade-The extract designation can get a little confusing. I understand the 100:1 long jack is 100 X more concentrated than raw powder. But I noticed nutraplanet sells "50%" icariin and a "20%" horny goat weed powder. From everything I gather Epimedium Sagittatum and horny goat weed are the same thing. I have read icariin is one of the the active ingredients in Epimedium but "icariin" is also sometimes used to identify the herb itself. Can you explain what the 50% and 20% refers to in these two products and exactly how the 50% icariin and 20% horny goat weed products are derived? Sorry, I know this is getting off topic but an explanation would help.
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    Id be willing to try it. It says in a natural bbing magazine thats its a option that goes with the natural bodybuilding rules...it says it works.. any reviews anywhere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    one of the meetings i just finished was with my new extractions expert. we should have an advanced, ultra strong concentration option soon on many compounds.

    This was a long time ago but I will BUMP maybe some high concentrated Icariin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Originally Posted by halljo
    Is there a Lonjack supp that's capped or is it just powder/DIY? (Just Longjack nothing else)


    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    This will soon be an option

    Is this still in the works?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 28540MC View Post
    This was a long time ago but I will BUMP maybe some high concentrated Icariin.
    this is actually almost finished and should see the light of day in a formula about February.

    I highlly recommend letting your girl try out Icariin (50%) in low dosage (about 250mg of active) as it has strange and wonderful effects on sex drive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    We'll soon be looking to do a capped product. How do you like the combo?

    I have access to GREAT extracts of:

    Epimedium
    Divanyl
    Fenugreek
    MACA
    Tribulus
    Muira Puama
    Catuaba

    any feedback for a libido enhancement stack (powder) or capped product?
    what percent proto is the tribulus?

    Id have to look of some of these I know what Divanyl, maca, tribulus does,

    fenugreek i forgot I used to take it. is this the stuff that made you smell like an Indian restaurant or is that coleus? f?
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    what is the verdict on LongJack with respect to estrogen increase?
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    Some have reported really strange (or I should say surprising) estrogen (or gyno) reactions from Longjack. I have never experienced it myself, although I don't know the actual potency of the extract I was using ( it was supposed to be a relatively strong extract, but I have my suspicions now, as I got it from a source I am not sure about).
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