Preworkout nootropic

[Amanojaku]

I am looking for a good preworkout without stimulants but loaded with nootropics and that allows me to endure a hard workout. Do you have any suggestions?

 

[myuniverse1]

Noowave SWELL is a good one, 300mg Alpha-GPC, and 20mg Noopept.

 

[EpicSlaughter]

Convict has DMHA and Noopept. Gold Star Triple X has DMHA and phenylpiracetam.

 

[myuniverse1]

Convict has DMHA and Noopept. Gold Star Triple X has DMHA and phenylpiracetam.

those both contain DMHA, which is a stimulant... OP specified without stimulants.

 

[EpicSlaughter]

Convict has DMHA and Noopept. Gold Star Triple X has DMHA and phenylpiracetam.

I missed the stim free part... my bad. I'm at work and apparently skimmed a little too quickly. My apologies.

 

[myuniverse1]

I missed the stim free part... my bad. I'm at work and apparently skimmed a little too quickly. My apologies.

in b4 someone says Craze LOL!

 

[niklasericson]

I am looking for a good preworkout without stimulants but loaded with nootropics and that allows me to endure a hard workout. Do you have any suggestions?

SNS Focus XT can't go wrong.

 

[AntM1564]

Here is the thing, a lot of Nootrtopics are synergistic with caffeine. Would you be open to a nootropic product with just caffeine as the stimulant source? If you were open to that, NootropiMax can be used pre workout alongside your favorite stim free product. It is not overbearing caffeine wise. NootropiMax will obviously give you that focus for your workout and the non stim will provide the pumps you seek during a workout.

If you're looking for something completely stim free, Clear Edge looks promising and so does Focus XT Stim free, just note that you won't get any extra energy and the focus/clarity won't be as great when using these products without a little caffeine.

Another option is VasoMax which is a non stim pre workout that induces incredible pumps, but it also has a small focus blend. It contains several ingredients including Hup A and Alpha-GPC. Both of those are great to supplement with. I will also use a cap or two of SNS Hup A with VasoMax.

 

[mrhankey87]

SNS Focus XT caffeine free.

 

[EpicSlaughter]

A couple of all in one options that haven't been mentioned.

Genius Pre-Workout

PreSeries Stim Free:

Just my opinion, but for the best experience I would suggest stacking one the above products or something like Outlift Stim Free:

Along with Alpha GPC, Noopept or Phenylpiracetam, Lion's Mane, Huperzine A, L-Theanine, and L-Tyrosine.

I always like to add a good nitrate based pump product like PES High Volume

Or N-Vein

 

[EpicSlaughter]

Cannibal Genius Nootropic blend by Chaos & Pain:

If you're interested in trying this or anything else from Chaos & Pain, feel free to PM me for a discount code.

 

[BloodManor]

Cannibal Genius Nootropic blend by Chaos & Pain:View attachment 154212

If you're interested in trying this or anything else from Chaos & Pain, feel free to PM me for a discount code.

Cannibal genius is a staple and great for focus before a gym session or used to study like I do.

 

[Amanojaku]

First of all, thank you guys for your answers. About genius I read good reviews, the problem is that they do not send it to Spain, I have also read good things about preseries. The reason for not wanting stimulants is because I usually end at 22:30 and wake up at 5:00 so I need to sleep lol

 

[BloodManor]

First of all, thank you guys for your answers. About genius I read good reviews, the problem is that they do not send it to Spain, I have also read good things about preseries. The reason for not wanting stimulants is because I usually end at 22:30 and wake up at 5:00 so I need to sleep lol

Time to move to America
But yea you don't want to be laying in bed all stimmed out counting dumbells

 

[Amanojaku]

Time to move to America
But yea you don't want to be laying in bed all stimmed out counting dumbells

Lol although I would like to be in the fight tonight

 

[JAMES1980]

Here is the thing, a lot of Nootrtopics are synergistic with caffeine. Would you be open to a nootropic product with just caffeine as the stimulant source? If you were open to that, NootropiMax can be used pre workout alongside your favorite stim free product. It is not overbearing caffeine wise. NootropiMax will obviously give you that focus for your workout and the non stim will provide the pumps you seek during a workout.

If you're looking for something completely stim free, Clear Edge looks promising and so does Focus XT Stim free, just note that you won't get any extra energy and the focus/clarity won't be as great when using these products without a little caffeine.

Another option is VasoMax which is a non stim pre workout that induces incredible pumps, but it also has a small focus blend. It contains several ingredients including Hup A and Alpha-GPC. Both of those are great to supplement with. I will also use a cap or two of SNS Hup A with VasoMax.

I just finished 1 bottle of Nootropimax. I took 1 serving around 6 p.m. and went to sleep around 11 p.m. It doesnt affect my sleep. Very good product.

 

[jtmass]

Check out Brain Bridge from MAN Sports. Never used it. But looks promising.

 

[JAMES1980]

Check out Brain Bridge from MAN Sports. Never used it. But looks promising.

I was thinking of getting one after i finish my Nootropimax but it is sold out at the moment. I am still waiting ?.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

Here is the thing, a lot of Nootrtopics are synergistic with caffeine. Would you be open to a nootropic product with just caffeine as the stimulant source? If you were open to that, NootropiMax can be used pre workout alongside your favorite stim free product. It is not overbearing caffeine wise. NootropiMax will obviously give you that focus for your workout and the non stim will provide the pumps you seek during a workout.

If you're looking for something completely stim free, Clear Edge looks promising and so does Focus XT Stim free, just note that you won't get any extra energy and the focus/clarity won't be as great when using these products without a little caffeine.

Another option is VasoMax which is a non stim pre workout that induces incredible pumps, but it also has a small focus blend. It contains several ingredients including Hup A and Alpha-GPC. Both of those are great to supplement with. I will also use a cap or two of SNS Hup A with VasoMax.

This is a good point. Besides the common caffeine and theanine synergy, l-ornithine HCL is also synergistic with caffeine. Interestingly, caffeine has been shown to increase choline’s ability to increase acetylcholine, meaning caffeine can potentiate the effects of choline, making the two an effective combination in nootropic stacks. So you get all of these and more with NootropiMax, and much more.

If you really don't want any stims, Clear Edge is a solid nootropic supplement, and Stim-Free Focus XT is pretty good too. As for a stim-free pre-workout that also has nootropic ingredients (the abound mentioned supplements are nootropics without really any pump ingredients if that's something you want), VasoMax is s solid option.

Cannibal Genius Nootropic blend by Chaos & Pain:View attachment 154212

If you're interested in trying this or anything else from Chaos & Pain, feel free to PM me for a discount code.

I like a lot of C&P's stuff, but some of those doses have me scratching my head.

 

[jtmass]

I was thinking of getting one after i finish my Nootropimax but it is sold out at the moment. I am still waiting ��.

Cool. Tried the Gameday, ISO BCAA and Nitric Pump Inducer. I like their products.

 

[AntM1564]

A couple of all in one options that haven't been mentioned.

Genius Pre-Workout
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I am quite impressed with this label. What stores carry it, I have never heard of it. I want to check it out as it contains a lot of ingredients I buy in bulk to make my own blend.

 

[EpicSlaughter]

I am quite impressed with this label. What stores carry it, I have never heard of it. I want to check it out as it contains a lot of ingredients I buy in bulk to make my own blend.

I believe you can only purchase it on Amazon. Good stuff and I like that it contains HICA.

 

[AntM1564]

I believe you can only purchase it on Amazon. Good stuff and I like that it contains HICA.

I like the inclusion of HICA too, I would like a higher dose, but it does help my recovery even at a lower dose.

 

[BloodManor]

I like the inclusion of HICA too, I would like a higher dose, but it does help my recovery even at a lower dose.

I agree and wish more supps contained it

 

[muscleupcrohn]

I like the inclusion of HICA too, I would like a higher dose, but it does help my recovery even at a lower dose.

I agree and wish more supps contained it

I do like HICA, but I also like HMB, which can be found as a bulk powder (not the fancy HMB-FA) for a VERY reasonable price. Besides the anti-catabolic effects, it may also be a generally useful "anti-aging" product (at least based on some animal studies).

 

[Robert5891]

Another vote for Genius Pre, I've got through a tub and a half and thoroughly enjoyed the product.

Other good options are Stim free Focus XT, Stim free Quake or NooWave Swell

 

[John Smeton]

IForce Nutrition Hemavol (capsules)

Millenniumsport ragnorok -elite (caffeine free)

 

[EpicSlaughter]

I just read about the new Rhino Black Series Pumped which is soon to be released. Interesting formula... thought you might be interested in this one.

 

[Jiigzz]

Stim free Focus XT, or make your own using some bulk noots like Alpha GPC, Citocholine, ALCAR etc.

 

[kisaj]

I am quite impressed with this label. What stores carry it, I have never heard of it. I want to check it out as it contains a lot of ingredients I buy in bulk to make my own blend.

Very much so. This is a good profile for sure.

 

[warbird01]

Stim free Focus XT, or make your own using some bulk noots like Alpha GPC, Citocholine, ALCAR etc.

Focus XT ftw. Tried and true. Both caffein and caffein free versions are great!

https://www.nutri-verse.com/focus-xt-caffeine-free-by-sns/ (use coupon code)

You also can find cheaper if you look around.

 

[warbird01]

Stim free Focus XT, or make your own using some bulk noots like Alpha GPC, Citocholine, ALCAR etc.

Focus XT ftw. Tried and true. Both caffein and caffein free versions are great!

https://www.nutri-verse.com/focus-xt-caffeine-free-by-sns/ (use coupon code)

You also can find cheaper if you look around.

 

[Amanojaku]

I think I prefer the xt or pre transparent approach by adding gpc. If any of you come on holiday to Barcelona bring me a couple of genius pots
Thanks all

 

[kisaj]

I just read about the new Rhino Black Series Pumped which is soon to be released. Interesting formula... thought you might be interested in this one. View attachment 154419

I see no reason that they needed to add vanadyl sulfate in the profile. Other than that, it looks solid.

 

[machinehead]

I see no reason that they needed to add vanadyl sulfate in the profile. Other than that, it looks solid.

So they can say "matrix"

 

[John Smeton]

I see no reason that they needed to add vanadyl sulfate in the profile. Other than that, it looks solid.

I use to take 40-50 mgs vanadyl sulfate in the early 2000's as we used to use it as a gda back then haha.

 

[vujade]

another vote for Focus XT. I even use it in the afternoon to help me at work.

 

[horizons]

Focus XT ftw. Tried and true. Both caffein and caffein free versions are great!

https://www.nutri-verse.com/focus-xt-caffeine-free-by-sns/ (use coupon code)

You also can find cheaper if you look around.

I wish I could enjoy this product but it gave me explosive toilet trips every time I tried it

Wish they made a pill formula but then i understand the dosage would be 5x caps a day just to get the right dosage lol