New xgels or xfator ingredients that are easy in inflammation?

[clint3612]

Like the title says I coulda swore I read that one of them has new ingredient profile that's a little easier on the joints. Is is true or am I dreaming this $hit?

 

[Danes]

Like the title says I coulda swore I read that one of them has new ingredient profile that's a little easier on the joints. Is is true or am I dreaming this $hit?

I used XFA (X factor Advanced) which is "easier" on the joints but it was not easy at all. i felt like a 80 years old man

 

[clint3612]

I used XFA (X factor Advanced) which is "easier" on the joints but it was not easy at all. i felt like a 80 years old man

Oh damn!! I was hoping for an easier road then that! The original kicks my ass too!

 

[Danes]

Oh damn!! I was hoping for an easier road then that! The original kicks my ass too!

But I need to admit it is one of the best things I have ever tried for strength and size. I ran 2.5g and took it everyday (2 months)

 

[clint3612]

But I need to admit it is one of the best things I have ever tried for strength and size. I ran 2.5g and took it everyday (2 months)

What were your gains like on strength?

 

[Danes]

What were your gains like on strength?

Not bad at all..didnt expect that kind of strength increase from ArA at all.
I did liked massive pumps and swolen feeling

 

[ryane87]

You could get some SNS Joint Support XT and Cissus XT and that could relieve some of the joint issues if your joints are in decent shape. Flexatril is another solid option. I think because of the MOA, it would be hard to find something to take with it.

 

[Oconns28]

I used XFA (X factor Advanced) which is "easier" on the joints but it was not easy at all. i felt like a 80 years old man

So would you say it's worth the joint pain?

 

[celc5]

When dosing every day, how long dose it take for most users to experience joint soreness?

 

[Danes]

So would you say it's worth the joint pain?

I would say yes. But It was really ****ty feeling. Felt old and stiff haha

 

[Danes]

When dosing every day, how long dose it take for most users to experience joint soreness?

For me, after 1 week

 

[Oconns28]

I would say yes. But It was really ****ty feeling. Felt old and stiff haha

Lol damn those strength gains and pump must have been good! How close was it to being to uncomfortable/painful to continue?

 

[Danes]

Lol damn those strength gains and pump must have been good! How close was it to being to uncomfortable/painful to continue?

The only thing that I really had problem was doing squats. Warmup was worst.

 

[ryane87]

So would you say it's worth the joint pain?

I would because I only ran it for a bottle and a half (about 25-35 workouts). I was bigger and stronger beyond normal progression.

 

[Oconns28]

I would because I only ran it for a bottle and a half (about 25-35 workouts). I was bigger and stronger beyond normal progression.

The only thing that I really had problem was doing squats. Warmup was worst.

Thanks guys. My other just minor concern is taking it while having mild asthma.....

 

[Danes]

Thanks guys. My other just minor concern is taking it while having mild asthma.....

Avoid all pro inflammatory stuff. That is my advice

 

[ryane87]

Thanks guys. My other just minor concern is taking it while having mild asthma.....

I don't think I would take a chance. No supplement is worth the off chance of a bad reaction with your asthma.

 

[Oconns28]

I don't think I would take a chance. No supplement is worth the off chance of a bad reaction with your asthma.

But the gainz!!! Lol. I think you guys are right. Booneman77 also suggested against it. I was hoping some people with asthma had tried it but it seems like they have been smart enough to stay away!

 

[Nac]

But the gainz!!! Lol. I think you guys are right. Booneman77 also suggested against it. I was hoping some people with asthma had tried it but it seems like they have been smart enough to stay away!

Furion posted this:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/267883-dangers-ara.html#post4924447

 

[Oconns28]

Furion posted this:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/267883-dangers-ara.html#post4924447

Thanks dude!!!

 

[celc5]

For me, after 1 week

That sucks man. I was asking because i ran it for 4 weeks, expecting the joints and old surgeries to hurt and they never did. I think I might just be lucky. I will be going back to Xgels again for sure.

 

[The Whizard]

The only thing that I really had problem was doing squats. Warmup was worst.

How do you believe joint support interacts with ARA such as Flexatril?

 

[bigsmall]

avoid ARA - its more than bad for the joints. Believe me, I am 49 and ran it many times since it was beta and many years before SNS started selling it. I wish I never did. You would be better off using allot of other things. I now use Folidrone 2.0, which is an anti inflammatory, as a staple.

 

[The Whizard]

I've heard to avoid joint supports with ARA but was wondering if Danes thoughts were the same

 

[jameschoi]

avoid ARA - its more than bad for the joints. Believe me, I am 49 and ran it many times since it was beta and many years before SNS started selling it. I wish I never did. You would be better off using allot of other things. I now use Folidrone 2.0, which is an anti inflammatory, as a staple.

What damage did ARA do to you permanently then?

 

[Danes]

I've heard to avoid joint supports with ARA but was wondering if Danes thoughts were the same

ArA is totaly fine as long as you dont run it often.
One of the best natural things you can use for size and strength!

 

[The Whizard]

ArA is totaly fine as long as you dont run it often.
One of the best natural things you can use for size and strength!

Sorry. I wasn't clear. Was asking if you thought "joint support" supplements negate the effects of ARA as they help reduce inflammation

 

[The Whizard]

Danes

 

[Danes]

Danes

X factor Advanced has joint support so it works totaly fine.
People are overcomplicate the use of ArA.
Its no problem lets say use omega 3 in the mornings and taking ArA prior training later (lets say 8 hours later)

 

[The Whizard]

 

[Danes]

ArA is really potent stuff

 

[bigsmall]

What damage did ARA do to you permanently then?

After a couple of years of running it as suggested, it seemed to cause more and more inflammation that would carry itself into the times when I would not be taking it (worse and worse DOMS). Now I have that inflammation all the time. We could blame this condition on everything under the sun, but I am certain that if I never ran it, I would not experience the effects I get now.

 

[Jiigzz]

I've used it with relative consistency for a few years, but I run it 2x per year tops.

During my runs, I start at 1g and ramp up to 2, then down to 1g for two bottles tops.

I have never had any issues with longlasting joint issues

 

[Danes]

After a couple of years of running it as suggested, it seemed to cause more and more inflammation that would carry itself into the times when I would not be taking it (worse and worse DOMS). Now I have that inflammation all the time. We could blame this condition on everything under the sun, but I am certain that if I never ran it, I would not experience the effects I get now.

I am not you so I cant say its not true but it is not logical because ArA does not give chronic inflammation

 

[cheftepesh1]

Never had an issue with ARA when using xgels. Always ran 2.5 and no pain. Maybe it's just a me and I have knee and back issues.

 

[bigsmall]

I am not you so I cant say its not true but it is not logical because ArA does not give chronic inflammation

Believe that it does not.

 

[celc5]

After a couple of years of running it as suggested, it seemed to cause more and more inflammation that would carry itself into the times when I would not be taking it (worse and worse DOMS). Now I have that inflammation all the time. We could blame this condition on everything under the sun, but I am certain that if I never ran it, I would not experience the effects I get now.

Maybe your joints got worse, but your logic doesnt work. Inflammation is a result of joint deterioration. Inflammation doesnt cause joint deterioration without profound disease.

Your logic is like saying the fire department accidently saturated my home with water and now it's always on fire.

 

[Danes]

Maybe your joints got worse, but your logic doesnt work. Inflammation is a result of joint deterioration. Inflammation doesnt cause joint deterioration without profound disease.

Your logic is like saying the fire department accidently saturated my home with water and now it's always on fire.

Its like saying, my house has been on fire couple of times and even after exinguishing it its still on fire

 

[bigsmall]

Maybe your joints got worse, but your logic doesnt work. Inflammation is a result of joint deterioration. Inflammation doesnt cause joint deterioration without profound disease.

Your logic is like saying the fire department accidently saturated my home with water and now it's always on fire.

I did not say anything about joints getting worse or joint deterioration, right?

 

[celc5]

I did not say anything about joints getting worse or joint deterioration, right?

its more than bad for the joints. Believe me

Your point is crystal clear. You blame ara for prolonged inflammation after cessation of the supplement and tell people not to take it bc it's bad for the joints.

 

[cheftepesh1]

avoid ARA - its more than bad for the joints. Believe me, I am 49 and ran it many times since it was beta and many years before SNS started selling it. I wish I never did. You would be better off using allot of other things. I now use Folidrone 2.0, which is an anti inflammatory, as a staple.

Not sure where your issues are coming from but after several runs I would use without any issues.

 

[celc5]

Sounds like you need an anti inflammatory for your ulcerative vaginitis.