Ryan5550
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I've heard follidrone 2.o an anafuse
ThisWhat type of supplements are we talking about? Based on your examples, I'm going to assume you're talking about natural anabolics.
Or1gin: Natural anabolic to boost appetite, improve digestion, maximize hypertrophy
Test1fy: Natural anabolic and test booster to increase appetite, modulate cortisol, act as a natural AI, increase libido, improve mood
K1ngs Blood: Natural anabolic and hormone optimizer that can be used during PCT or on its own to increase libido, improve mood, modulate cortisol, and aid with strength and performance
X-Gels: Arachidonic acid to aid with strength and body composition
Anabeta Elite: Natural anabolic to increase appetite, increase muscle fullness, aid with body composition
Please keep in mind that you're not going to put on significant muscle while cutting, and a natural anabolic isn't really going to change that. Maybe a tiny amount if your deficit is small, your protein is high, and everything about your training, diet, and recovery is absolutely spot-on, but not a significant amount. This isn't to say that a natural anabolic wouldn't be useful, but make sure you keep your expectations in check.I guess I wanted to just try a real good natural anabolic while stacking it with a thermogenic for cutting
I'll second this list. I like ep1c unleashed and strength unleashed by OL as well. An ABE and Xgels run is always a great natty stack.What type of supplements are we talking about? Based on your examples, I'm going to assume you're talking about natural anabolics.
Or1gin: Natural anabolic to boost appetite, improve digestion, maximize hypertrophy
Test1fy: Natural anabolic and test booster to increase appetite, modulate cortisol, act as a natural AI, increase libido, improve mood
K1ngs Blood: Natural anabolic and hormone optimizer that can be used during PCT or on its own to increase libido, improve mood, modulate cortisol, and aid with strength and performance
X-Gels: Arachidonic acid to aid with strength and body composition
Anabeta Elite: Natural anabolic to increase appetite, increase muscle fullness, aid with body composition
What are the main differences between Test1fy and K1ngs Blood from a marketing perspective? Not specifically the ingredients but overall who would benefit more from one or the other. They seem similar to me.What type of supplements are we talking about? Based on your examples, I'm going to assume you're talking about natural anabolics.
Or1gin: Natural anabolic to boost appetite, improve digestion, maximize hypertrophy
Test1fy: Natural anabolic and test booster to increase appetite, modulate cortisol, act as a natural AI, increase libido, improve mood
K1ngs Blood: Natural anabolic and hormone optimizer that can be used during PCT or on its own to increase libido, improve mood, modulate cortisol, and aid with strength and performance
X-Gels: Arachidonic acid to aid with strength and body composition
Anabeta Elite: Natural anabolic to increase appetite, increase muscle fullness, aid with body composition
The OL website has a blog stating the difference or @V02maxima will go into detail. But if I had to choose 1 product to stack with a thermogenic, it would be tr1umph fwiw.What are the main differences between Test1fy and K1ngs Blood from a marketing perspective? Not specifically the ingredients but overall who would benefit more from one or the other. They seem similar to me.
I'll check it out. I've kind of lumped them together in the test booster category competing with products like M-Test. So I'm just wondering if there is a difference between the 2 in a broad sense.The OL website has a blog stating the difference or @V02maxima will go into detail. But if I had to choose 1 product to stack with a thermogenic, it would be tr1umph fwiw.
I think op is gonna be in a caloric deficit, so I wound go with ARAThere are some good suggestions here. Here's my $0.02:
Basic staples (creatine, betaine, etc) in no particular order: PowerMax XT, Ergonine, Triumph, Finish Line
Natural anabolics and other natural products for building muscle and strength, also in no particular order:
-ABE
-MassMax XT
-ARA
-Origin
-Follidrone 2.0
Test Boosters (that can also be natural anabolics, I just differentiate between the categories personally):
-AlphaMax XT
-M-Test
-Testify and Kings Blood
https://olympus-labs.com/3-kings/What are the main differences between Test1fy and K1ngs Blood from a marketing perspective? Not specifically the ingredients but overall who would benefit more from one or the other. They seem similar to me.
True, I some things that can increase appetite (ABE, MassMax Xt, Origin) may not be the best during a cut, but I figured I'd list them for anyone else interested in some good natural supplements. ARA would work here, as would supplements that contain things like forskolin (cAMP), ashwagandha (adaptogen, that also has some reseach showing improved body composition), tongkat ali (adaptogen that can help improve mood and libido during a cut), which are found in products like AlphaMax XT, M-Test, and Kings Blood. Follidrone 2.0 with ecklonia and epicatechin is another one to consider, and I've heard people here have had success stacking it with something like AlphaMax XT. Bulk HMB is very affordable and could be useful during a cut as well.I think op is gonna be in a caloric deficit, so I wound go with ARA
I haven't had the best results with it but it's highly touted. ARA increases DOMS, so I'm not sure how that would be without adequate calories for recovery.Sounds like nobody likes anafuse lol. Is ara a decently strong supplement for building muscle obviously with a good diet and workout plan
It's fallacious logic that other natural supplements won't work because they're "the same old stuff mixed together in different ways." Perhaps there's a reason why some of these ingredients appear in multiple supplements that are well-regarded and reviewed here?- Folidrone 2.0 (is much more than just epicatechin) - can be run year around. Has many benefits not found in any other supplement. Contains innovative ingredients that nobody else is using. Tons of positive logs. Its your best choice all around during a cut. You will have a hard time losing scale weight, but you will get ripped. I ran it for 5 months, just did a harder cycle and am back on it.
- ARA - is an inflammatory and is hard on the body ESPECIALLY during a calorie deficit, but does work well (btw, don't use ARA with Folidrone 2.0 which is anti- inflammatory).
- Everything else out their is just copied or the same old stuff mixed together in different ways. The above two are the only natural supps that work.
It definitely increased my appetite a good bit. I haven't tried using it during a cut, but if you don't have very good control over your appetite and cravings, I could see it being problematic. I say it really shines during a bulk. Granted, I did notice other benefits such as improved vascularity and endurance, but you don't want your appetite to turn your cut into a bulk, haha. I'd save it for when you're not cutting, especially for your first time using it so you can test it and get the most out of it as you can. From there, you'll be able to tell if it's something you'd consider using during a cut, as everyone is different.Massmax xt looks like a great product. But does it really drastically increase your appetite ?
Not saying they don't work. I have tried nearly all of them including Performax products (currently using your Slinmax, Oxymax XT) and carefully watched logs as well for many, many of my 49 years. I am not a rep or biased in anyway. And imo, op's money is best spent as I indicated.It's fallacious logic that other natural supplements won't work because they're "the same old stuff mixed together in different ways." Perhaps there's a reason why some of these ingredients appear in multiple supplements that are well-regarded and reviewed here?
Yeah, there's no real reason to stack FD2 with MassMax XT, as both have epicatechin with absorption enhancement, so you don't need to double up there, although they both have other great ingredients as well. I'd say go with FD2 during a cut, then MassMax XT during a bulk. As for what you can add to FD2, I've seen some people really enjoy it with AlphaMax XT, which has forskolin, ashwagandha, and tongkat ali, which can all be useful during a cut. If you're more budget-minded, you could pick up some standalone KSM-66, which is useful at any time, and pretty much a staple for a lot of people around here now, and maybe some bulk HMB powder (anti-catabolic) for your cut.Cool thanks bro! I'm really interested in stacking the follidrone 2.0 with any supplement preferable not expensive. I already have a solid themergenic
Folidrone 2.0 stacks very well with ultra cheap PA (i.e. Fern brand Lecithin Granules 2-4 tbls per day). Tons of logs showing the effects of PA (comparing to ARA).Cool thanks bro! I'm really interested in stacking the follidrone 2.0 with any supplement preferable not expensive. I already have a solid themergenic
I must have misunderstood you when you said "The above two are the only natural supps that work." ARA and FD2 are definitely great products too.Not saying they don't work. I have tried nearly all of them including Performax products (currently using your Slinmax, Oxymax XT) and carefully watched logs as well for many, many of my 49 years. I am not a rep or biased in anyway. And imo, op's money is best spent as I indicated.
It's just a high-quality ashwagandha extract standardized for 5% withanolides HPLC.Ksm 66? Not familiar with that
Haha, what if he's in Florida like I am? It's beach whether most of the year. Get pretty cut now, and just maintain and put on a little bit of size during Spring break. Different strokes for different folks.I'm going to grab the blunt object of introspect and suggest the OP just eat good food, stay in the deficit, and get plenty of rest. Overthinking the entire schema of supplements will drive you up a wall.
That said, I think Follidrone 2.o would be a great addition, if you were bent on taking something to stack with Thermogenesis. What bigsmall said. Fern brand is great and inexpensive $15 lasts 2-3 months. Tastes great in yogurt, and oatmeal.
BTW: It's not cutting time is it? March / April - May...
I'm in Florida and it's freezing my man. Where you at?Haha, what if he's in Florida like I am? It's beach whether most of the year. Get pretty cut now, and just maintain and put on a little bit of size during Spring break. Different strokes for different folks.
Fern Lecithin Granules.What's a good brand of PA that's not going to break my bank account lol
Haha, I'm in South Florida, Palm Beach County area. It's 55 right now, but it'll be back up in the 80s before too long.I'm in Florida and it's freezing my man. Where you at?
Fern Lecithin Granules.
Taste nutty like cashews.
Soy lecithin granules for the absolute cheapest option. Go with 2-3 tbsp per day.What's a good brand of PA that's not going to break my bank account lol
Vacuum cleaner door-to-door salesmen can be like that, too.Okay thank you! Is there a reason on supplement shop when I called there Friday to order follidrone 2.0 they kept referring me to anafuse? They kept saying it is a much strong product and there best seller ??
They don't make as much money on FD2? Where are you located?Okay thank you! Is there a reason on supplement shop when I called there Friday to order follidrone 2.0 they kept referring me to anafuse? They kept saying it is a much strong product and there best seller ??
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