Rate my stack Tr1umph, Xgels, ABE, AlphaMax XT

[Cogy]

Guys,

Planning to start with a stack like this:

01-04 weeks : Tr1umph - ABE
04-08 weeks : Tr1umph - ABE- AlphaMax XT
08-12 weeks : Tr1umph - X-Gels - AlphaMax XT
12-16 weeks : Tr1umph - X-Gels - AlphaMax XT

edit: X-Gels only on training days (4-5 times)

Get mass with ABE, then quality with X-Gels and AlphaMax XT.

I've ran all supps before, only Tr1umph is new for me.

Maybe some other idea's for stacking?

Thanks

 

[twuncher]

How many days do you train? As you could do x gels preworkout instead of everyday.

 

[AntM1564]

Two questions for ya.

1. How many days per week do you work out and what is your dose of ArA?

2. Why 12 weeks of AlphaMax XT? It is only suggested to run it for 8 weeks without a break.

 

[Cogy]

twuncher:

4-5 times a week

I'm planning to take it only on training-days

AntM1564

Will start 1gr, maybe up to 1,5gr

I know, but i already have taken it longer then 8 weeks.
I love AlphaMax.

Any other suggestions, AntM1564?

 

[cubsfan815]

We can't really suggest 12 weeks on Alphamax XT, it's always good to take a break.

I personally love Alphamax XT with ABE due to the huge dose of F95 when combined. I would try to get at least 4 weeks of them combined.

 

[ma70]

01-08 Weeks - ABE+Tr1umph+X-Gels
08-016 Weeks: Tr1umph

As far as effectiveness, that's the way to go. Put the Alphamax wherever you want. Doesn't matter.

ABE, ArA, and Tr1umph are synergistic. Why split them? Then again, I would recommend you split natural anabolics as lean gains as a natty are limited anyway, so actually, use them whenever you want. Alphamax/ABE both have Forskolin, so it's best to use them at the same time or overlapped unless you don't care about going over 12 weeks on Forskolin (which is based on a study).

 

[john.patterson]

01-08 Weeks - ABE+Tr1umph+X-Gels
08-016 Weeks: Tr1umph

As far as effectiveness, that's the way to go. Put the Alphamax wherever you want. Doesn't matter.

This. As others have suggested, I would recommend taking a 4-6 week break after 8 weeks of Alphamax XT, but the setup above would probably be best. My other question is - Have you used high doses of F95 before? ABE and Alphamax XT together is a high dose, and its possible that it will cause some GI issues.

 

[Cogy]

ma70:
Thanks.

Think this will be the stack: (harding at the end with AlphaMax XT)
01-04 weeks : Tr1umph - ABE - X-Gels
04-08 weeks : Tr1umph - ABE - X-Gels
08-12 weeks : Tr1umph - ABE - X-Gels - AlphaMax XT
12-16 weeks : Tr1umph - ABE - X-Gels - AlphaMax XT

john.patterson

I did run 100gr forskolin. Never had to much GI issues

Another question:
With intermittent fasting i will train fasted and will eat three meals.
Do you guys dose ABE fasted pre-training? Or just with the two biggest meals? But not the post-meal, right ?

 

[georgetown]

We can't really suggest 12 weeks on Alphamax XT, it's always good to take a break.

I personally love Alphamax XT with ABE due to the huge dose of F95 when combined. I would try to get at least 4 weeks of them combined.

What benefits do you notice from a large dose of F95? Any GI issues?

 

[john.patterson]

ma70:
Thanks.

Think this will be the stack: (harding at the end with AlphaMax XT)
01-04 weeks : Tr1umph - ABE - X-Gels
04-08 weeks : Tr1umph - ABE - X-Gels
08-12 weeks : Tr1umph - ABE - X-Gels - AlphaMax XT
12-16 weeks : Tr1umph - ABE - X-Gels - AlphaMax XT

john.patterson

I did run 100gr forskolin. Never had to much GI issues

Another question:
With intermittent fasting i will train fasted and will eat three meals.
Do you guys dose ABE fasted pre-training? Or just with the two biggest meals? But not the post-meal, right ?

That looks like a nice setup. I would get an input from a PES rep to see if there are any issues with running 16 weeks of ABE though.

If you're doing IF, you could try dosing ABE fasted and see how it goes. I typically take any products containing F95 with a meal, but if you can handle it on an empty stomach that would be fine. However I think its usually recommended that ABE be dosed with a meal

 

[cubsfan815]

What benefits do you notice from a large dose of F95? Any GI issues?

I have always had good luck on F95. I'm the typical endomorph and F95 seems to help me drop body fat easily. I have the typical GI issue for 1st day or 2, then I'm all good. I have been running that stack since OG Alphamax and 1st ABE. Love it.

 

[georgetown]

I have always had good luck on F95. I'm the typical endomorph and F95 seems to help me drop body fat easily. I have the typical GI issue for 1st day or 2, then I'm all good. I have been running that stack since OG Alphamax and 1st ABE. Love it.

Cool good to know

 

[Zariph]

so jealous on this stack...

 

[ma70]

ma70:
Thanks.

Think this will be the stack: (harding at the end with AlphaMax XT)
01-04 weeks : Tr1umph - ABE - X-Gels
04-08 weeks : Tr1umph - ABE - X-Gels
08-12 weeks : Tr1umph - ABE - X-Gels - AlphaMax XT
12-16 weeks : Tr1umph - ABE - X-Gels - AlphaMax XT

john.patterson

I did run 100gr forskolin. Never had to much GI issues

Another question:
With intermittent fasting i will train fasted and will eat three meals.
Do you guys dose ABE fasted pre-training? Or just with the two biggest meals? But not the post-meal, right ?

All PES reps will recommend you stick to 8 weeks of ABE as well (and not to run it for longer). I am not a PES rep, but I have seen many PES reps say the same thing. I normally don't suggest this, but I suggest you run something like this:

Weeks 1-8 : ABE + Alphamax + X-Gels + Tr1umph, in a recomp to 200 calorie surplus
Weeks 9-16: Tr1umph + anything else to tide you over

I recommend a smaller surplus for leaner gains and to make the best use of your anabolics. I feel that they help add LBM with less of a surplus (IE: Natty Anabolics + 200 cal = 500 cal surplus without anything, just random numbers as an example). As a natty, you will not gain mass faster if you're in some 1000 kcal surplus with the anabolics IMO (I've tested stuff like that in the past. it doesn't work that way even though we want it to). It may limit fat gain, but still, the idea is quality muscle.

 

[AntM1564]

ma70:
Thanks.

Think this will be the stack: (harding at the end with AlphaMax XT)
01-04 weeks : Tr1umph - ABE - X-Gels
04-08 weeks : Tr1umph - ABE - X-Gels
08-12 weeks : Tr1umph - ABE - X-Gels - AlphaMax XT
12-16 weeks : Tr1umph - ABE - X-Gels - AlphaMax XT

john.patterson

I did run 100gr forskolin. Never had to much GI issues

Another question:
With intermittent fasting i will train fasted and will eat three meals.
Do you guys dose ABE fasted pre-training? Or just with the two biggest meals? But not the post-meal, right ?

I like this setup a lot better, but I would run either ABE or AlphaMax XT the first 8 weeks and then the other the second 8 weeks.

 

[cheftepesh1]

I would run xgels through the whole first 50 days of the cycle on workout days.

 

[Daycrawler]

This looks good. I would start X Gels at the beginning and dose on workout days. Use until you run out
Besides that, looks like a fun ride ahead for you on the gains train

 

[R1balla]

This looks good. I would start X Gels at the beginning and dose on workout days. Use until you run out
Besides that, looks like a fun ride ahead for you on the gains train

Agreed.

 

[Cogy]

AntM1564:

I like this setup a lot better, but I would run either ABE or AlphaMax XT the first 8 weeks and then the other the second 8 weeks.

You mean like this:

01-04 weeks : Tr1umph - X-Gels - ABE
04-08 weeks : Tr1umph - X-Gels - ABE
08-12 weeks : Tr1umph - X-Gels - AlphaMax XT
12-16 weeks : Tr1umph - X-Gels - AlphaMax XT

This has my attention, think this will be my stack

 

[AntM1564]

AntM1564:


You mean like this:

01-04 weeks : Tr1umph - X-Gels - ABE
04-08 weeks : Tr1umph - X-Gels - ABE
08-12 weeks : Tr1umph - X-Gels - AlphaMax XT
12-16 weeks : Tr1umph - X-Gels - AlphaMax XT

This has my attention, think this will be my stack

Yes, that look perfect. Just keep in mind that X-Gels will only be used for 50 workout days. That may bring you to more or less than 12-16 weeks, depending on how many days you weight train.

I like that setup because Forskolin is great when dosed for slightly extended periods, 12-16 weeks.

 

[Synapsin]

PEScience highly recommends you don't use ABE for 16 weeks. I would cycle off for 4 weeks after 8 weeks. and then resume right after IMO if you have the four bottles already