Favorite fat burners?

[Myrmidon]

Im looking to expand my horizons on this front, what are the best thermogenics out there?

 

[booneman77]

There's quite a myriad of options out there depending what you're looking for (stimmed/not):

Stimmed - OG PES alphamine (not the reformulation released yesterday) or Norcodrene, lipomorph

Non Stim - SNS Lean Edge, TTA 500, bulk forskolin, SNS Thyrocaps, PES Shift

 

[The_Old_Guy]

Ephedrine HCL, Yohimbine HCL, Caffeine. If in the US, and depending on State Law, you can get E-HCL at your Pharmacy as 'Primatene' or any number of house brand Bronchial Dilators. Y-HCL and CAF are everywhere, and only slightly more expensive than dirt. IMO, anything else will be less effective, and only in existence because the US outlawed Ephedra Sinica alkaloids in/as dietary supplements. Look for human studies using DEXA (preferably in athletes) for any 'fat burner' you are thinking of trying, if possible.

 

[AntM1564]

I like anything, stim or non stim, with Forksolin. Forksolin can help one maintain lean mass and decrease fat. OxyMax XT contains a full dose of Forksolin which aids in that. Also, the blend promotes an increase in overall mood and can assist in an euphoric feeling. When dieting, some people can become very irritable; OxyMax XT can curb that.

Currently, many retailers have 20% of OxyMax XT as well too.

For non stims, Lean Mode, Lean Edge and DCP 2.0 are great.

 

[Jebrook]

OL Ignit3! Very new but tons of fans already. Check out the profile and write-up here:

http://olympus-labs.com/

 

[Raw Dog]

ANS Diablo + EvoMuse Alphaburn will probably be my go to now, I need to try ignit3 sometime as well. Love having a powder for some reason though

 

[machinehead]

Ephedrine, topical anti-cortisol products

 

[john.patterson]

My personal favorites are the EC stack (ephedrine and caffeine), yohimbine, and OxyMax XT.

EC packs the biggest punch with stimulants, and the appetite suppression is great.

I enjoy utilizing yohimbine for fasted cardio. It's a great stimulant and thermogenic, but it works best in a faster state when insulin levels are low.

Oxymax XT is a great all in one thermogenic. I enjoy it for the increase in mood and well being, because I often get short tempered and cranky while dieting haha. Oxymax XT helps to keep my me focused and mentally on point, and it's also works well as an appetite suppressant.

 

[TheMaster]

Better off making your own fat burner. If you want flavor you can just add some crystal light to your water in the flavor of your choice or some of that flavored enhanced squirt **** they have on the market.

 

[Myrmidon]

Big Alphamine fan here, the reformulation is why Im asking. Its pretty much all Ive ever used.

 

[cubs1987]

ANS Diablo + EvoMuse Alphaburn will probably be my go to now, I need to try ignit3 sometime as well. Love having a powder for some reason though

I was going to say this or Ignite by OL. Both seem like good options

 

[HIT4ME]

Alpham---wait, no --- Norco...wait, nevermind.

You have all the advice above that you need. The tried and true would be an Ephedrine, Caffeine, Yohimbine stack that others have mentioned.

To this, you could add forskolin, 7-Keto DHEA, green tea or capsaicin (or cayenne) - but the big effects will come from the ECY.

As a standalone product with stimulants, I think Oxymax XT is probably your best option right now. Ignit3 is decent too, but I'm one of the few that hasn't been blown away by it. It was good, just not great.

ANS Diablo is a product that I have used and really liked also. It doesn't get much love on this board, but it was Shift before Shift.

 

[Raw Dog]

Not sure why ANS doesn't get more love on this board. I've been enjoying Diablo PM as well

 

[HIT4ME]

Oh, and I forgot to mention - Brite by Evomuse. It's pretty much a staple for me now, so I forget all about it when people ask.

 

[Raw Dog]

Oh, and I forgot to mention - Brite by Evomuse. It's pretty much a staple for me now, so I forget all about it when people ask.

Considering trying Brite out with the 3 packs available, how long does one bottle last? How is the taste?

 

[Alex281]

Ol ignit3
Ds Superstim
Og Alphamine

 

[HIT4ME]

A bottle is SUPPOSED to last 30 days (6 oz. bottle). I've been getting about 21-24 days. The pumps on ALL of these products just have variation and there's nothing anyone can do about that. If you dose with an oral syringe you can be accurate, but it's convenient and cheap enough I don't mind if it lasts 21 days.

 

[Rob1882]

EC is my go to and YC/ECY



iForce has several pretty potent for energy/appetite suppression with

http://mindandmuscle.net/articles/product/iforce-nutrition-thermoxyn/

Thermoxyn used several bottles when this first launched and was stacking few caps of Y-HCL with but includes Rauw in Thermoxyn very good feel on this.

http://mindandmuscle.net/articles/product/iforce-nutrition-dexaprine/

And of course Dexaprine the return of the orig




Couple other favorites for energy/appetite suppression

BSL Cobra 6P Extreme Powder
Centurion Legion 1,3
Neogenix Velocity Ultra

 

[Raw Dog]

A bottle is SUPPOSED to last 30 days (6 oz. bottle). I've been getting about 21-24 days. The pumps on ALL of these products just have variation and there's nothing anyone can do about that. If you dose with an oral syringe you can be accurate, but it's convenient and cheap enough I don't mind if it lasts 21 days.

Do you consume it orally or is it a TD? Saw mention of a capped version so I assumed you drank it

 

[Robert5891]

Im looking to expand my horizons on this front, what are the best thermogenics out there?

Formutech Lean EFX (the dmaa version)
iForce Dexaprine (the dmaa version)
OG Alphamine (if you can find it)
Blue Star Blade (new version is great)

 

[NewAgeMayan]

OL Ignit3! Very new but tons of fans already. Check out the profile and write-up here:

http://olympus-labs.com/

Aye, 25% off at nutriverse atm. Under 25$ for a bottle.

 

[BlackTiger22]

ignit3

 

[Young Gotti]

Hi-tech Hydroxelite has treated me pretty nicely

http://mindandmuscle.net/articles/product/hi-tech-hydroxy-elite/

 

[HIT4ME]

Do you consume it orally or is it a TD? Saw mention of a capped version so I assumed you drank it

It's an oral product. It's basically an oil.

 

[compan]

EC Stack
Dexaprine (start w/ a half)

Either with F95% added to it. APS White Lightning is also good.

 

[mad dog]

ANS Diablo w yohimbe is equal to Alphamine. I just liked the fact that Alphamine already had included it.

 

[bb333]

Alphamine EU (OG)
Forskolin
Shift+

esperienza personale!

 

[TheMaster]

Why do so many mainstream companies refuse to use Yohimbe?

 

[mbonheur]

Because it is forbidden in most countries and it is a hassle to an additional international version if you do business internationally

 

[MidwestBeast]

Tons of good advice in here. Love me some ephedrine and it's cheap.

BRITE is probably my favorite product, now. Lots of other day loss stuff from EvoMuse, too.

I had my mom using Epitome and AMMO last month and just sent her another bottle of Epitome and Shift for this month.

 

[mad dog]

Is BRITE really that effective?

 

[MidwestBeast]

Damn you are a big guy then. What gym is that? It looks familiar. But hell probably not.

The original purpose was long term changes from WAT to BAT. Along the way, Matt added sesamol to the product and it really amplified the acute fat loss as well. I truly love it.

 

[Driven2lift]

Norcodrene ftw!

Still the OG version stocked at most retailers, the excellent appetite suppression and smooth energy it's renowned for

http://store.lockoutforums.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=2003515

 

[TheMaster]

Because it is forbidden in most countries and it is a hassle to an additional international version if you do business internationally

Forbidden? Really? Can you take the time to explain to me why?

Possibly would explain why PES discontinued Alphamine. Wanted to market it worldwide instead of just in America.

 

[Woody]

Forbidden? Really? Can you take the time to explain to me why?

Possibly would explain why PES discontinued Alphamine. Wanted to market it worldwide instead of just in America.

Not to derail this thread but that was literally discussed about 170732938 times in the various PES threads....

 

[cubsfan815]

OxyMax XT is pretty comprehensive. The mood boost alone makes it a great product. My wife has a great outlook while on it, which makes me happy lol. Takes away the irritability while dieting. Combine that with the multiple pathways it hits fat, pretty hard to beat.

Another vote for Brite as well. Stacks well with OxyMax XT too.

 

[Daycrawler]

Best: Caffeine Pills + Ephedrine.

Best all in one: Lean Edge for stim free and probably oxymax XT for stimmed

 

[Jiigzz]

Forbidden? Really? Can you take the time to explain to me why?

Possibly would explain why PES discontinued Alphamine. Wanted to market it worldwide instead of just in America.

In NZ its banned just coz, lol

 

[nbfootball65]

Formutech Lean EFX (the dmaa version)
iForce Dexaprine (the dmaa version)
OG Alphamine (if you can find it)
Blue Star Blade (new version is great)

100% AGREED

 

[christ83189]

Nutraceutical Innovations Burn Xtreme. Absolutely love it and its a good price too

 

[TheMaster]

In NZ its banned just coz, lol

Why?

 

[Jiigzz]

Why?

Never asked, never bothered to look.

I'd assume because a) effects on BP and other cardiovascular system aspects and b) anxiogenic

 

[jerard]

When do you take Ephedrine stack around your meals, how long after a meal or how long before a meal?

 

[Driven2lift]

When do you take Ephedrine stack around your meals, how long after a meal or how long before a meal?

Far as possible is always ideal for the appetite suppression effects.

With a meal won't blunt it too much (technically it has GDA effects here)
But I still suggest as fasted as you can each dose

2-3 hours before a meal is a nice minimum to shoot for

 

[jerard]

that's what i try to do, first thing in the morning 2 hrs before my workout and then 2 hours after eating a meal, sometimes i take 15mg twice a day, sometimes 3 times a day, i try not to take it after 5-6pm. Do You Cycle It in anyway?

 

[Driven2lift]

Why 15mg?
25 too much?

You should cycle it I'm sure but safety and tolerance data both exceed 6 months, so at your own preference of duration

 

[jackedjimbean]

Hydroxyelite is the hottest fat burner out! Hellfire worked pretty well for me as well.