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Has anyone ever used NOW 7-Keto LeanGels? How effective is it for losing fat?
What about any other 7 keto product? What would you dose 7 keto dhea alone at?
 
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100-200 mgs.
Some people like it more so as a topical though.
 

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100-200 mgs.
Some people like it more so as a topical though.
Do you know how long a cycle should be? 6 weeks maybe?
With nutrition perfect and lifting everyday can you expect a person to go from 175 18% body fat to around 10% body fat and some muscle gain?
 
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Where are the supplement facts? I couldn't find them on the site.
Contains Isopropanol,propylene glycol, benzyl alchol,cis-9-octadecanoic acid, Beta Androstenetriol [3b, 7b, 17b] 3-Acetate, N-n-butyl-benzoly-2-sulphimide, Stearyl Methacrylate, Nerolidol, Glycerin, Hypromellose. I believe its 85mg/ml
 

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Contains Isopropanol,propylene glycol, benzyl alchol,cis-9-octadecanoic acid, Beta Androstenetriol [3b, 7b, 17b] 3-Acetate, N-n-butyl-benzoly-2-sulphimide, Stearyl Methacrylate, Nerolidol, Glycerin, Hypromellose. I believe its 85mg/ml
How much more effective is the Beta Androstenetriol to the 7 keto?
 

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Not 7 keto tho.

They're releasing VII-KT which is 7 keto.

@OP, you'd be much better off waiting and running something like Lean Edge, Lean Extreme or EC for fat loss.
Lean xtreme's profile looks good, it has 7b OH and the 5 AT, but they don't show the doses, so idk.
 

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Lean xtreme's profile looks good, it has 7b OH and the 5 AT, but they don't show the doses, so idk.
If you're stuck on a topical, Invictus is a clone of CEL Supress C which was incredibly popular
 

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If you're stuck on a topical, Invictus is a clone of CEL Supress C which was incredibly popular
Thanks for the suggestions! Well i guess whatever compound is best for fat loss, so topical or oral. I just forgot about the other compounds except for 7 OH which 7 keto can be converted into, but now I'm wondering about these other compounds, are they better?
 
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Formutech makes a 7-Keto also
 
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Formutech makes a 7-Keto also
This (formutech nutrition is one of hitechs brands). Haven't used it yet but I have two bottles on the way. It is oral not topical 7keto
 

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This (formutech nutrition is one of hitechs brands). Haven't used it yet but I have two bottles on the way. It is oral not topical 7keto
Let me know what you think, it looks like the dose is pretty low though.
 
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Let me know what you think, it looks like the dose is pretty low though.
Yup will do, I think VaughnTrue has experience with it. I plan to probably run in 200 - 400mg.
 

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Yup will do, I think VaughnTrue has experience with it. I plan to probably run in 200 - 400mg.
Thanks! Can't wait to hear your experience with it. Are you going to run it alone? I'm thinking of running it alone or adding it to an 11 kt cycle.
I hope he can also chime in and share his experience!
 

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What's a good oral of 7 Keto you guys recommend ? Is the one from NOW that the OP asked for good?
 
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What's a good oral of 7 Keto you guys recommend ? Is the one from NOW that the OP asked for good?
the formutech one is a solid product. no nonsense and good dosing.



 

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as long as its a legit product/company who is sourcing raws appropriately, yes it should be identical.
Great, just one last question, is 100-200mg the preferable dose? I never used it before.

Thanks!
 
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Great, just one last question, is 100-200mg the preferable dose? I never used it before.

Thanks!
200mg is where results will initially be seen and be impressive. dosing should be 200-400mg/day as $$$ allows
 
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The info on lipo

7-Keto DHEA5
Piperine1
CLA10
Caffeine10
Raspberry Ketones10
Synephrine5

All in mg
 
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7 keto has little evidence behind it last time I checked..
 

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the formutech one is a solid product. no nonsense and good dosing.



I'm sure it's a good product but how does it have good dosing at 25mg/cap when the LEAST amount recommended is 200mg a day?
Is it good because the 8 caps should be spread throughout the day? Instead of taking 2 100mg caps? Or is it because it may be 99% pure and these other supps are only 25%.
I hope no offense is taken. I'm just confused by this.
 
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I'm sure it's a good product but how does it have good dosing at 25mg/cap when the LEAST amount recommended is 200mg a day?
Is it good because the 8 caps should be spread throughout the day? Instead of taking 2 100mg caps? Or is it because it may be 99% pure and these other supps are only 25%.
I hope no offense is taken. I'm just confused by this.
I like this one because I know for a fact the raws are tests for purity/potency, and its an inexpensive product. Most 7-keto products are very expensive for what you get.

always best to compare a $/mg across the brands to see which is actually the best deal.
 

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200mg is where results will initially be seen and be impressive. dosing should be 200-400mg/day as $$$ allows
Sorry, I have one more question, do I need any pct or something after 7 Keto?

I ordered 7 Keto from Jarrow and Alphamax XT today, pretty excited about that stack :)
 

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Sorry, I have one more question, do I need any pct or something after 7 Keto?

I ordered 7 Keto from Jarrow and Alphamax XT today, pretty excited about that stack :)
I remember reading that 7 keto does cause some suppression, it is smaller than the suppression with 11-kt and sometimes people don't do a pct for that so I would just do an OTC PCT like that alphamax xt. Maybe try sup3r pct which has a natural serm, ai, and test boosters.
 
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I remember reading that 7 keto does cause some suppression, it is smaller than the suppression with 11-kt and sometimes people don't do a pct for that so I would just do an OTC PCT like that alphamax xt. Maybe try sup3r pct which has a natural serm, ai, and test boosters.
No, it has zero hormonal response. No pct is necessary regardless of dosage used


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I remember reading that 7 keto does cause some suppression, it is smaller than the suppression with 11-kt and sometimes people don't do a pct for that so I would just do an OTC PCT like that alphamax xt. Maybe try sup3r pct which has a natural serm, ai, and test boosters.
11-keto causes suppression. 7-keto is non-hormonal, so it causes no suppression and requires no form of PCT.
 
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Take a look at MPA's new Vasoseven transdermal, all of his products are top of the line.
 

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Each pump is 25 mg -- therefore 4 pumps twice a day will give the clinical dose of 200 mg per day. However with the advanced topical carrier, I would assume 100 mg topically would surpass the 200 mg orally.

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