since sesathin is sold out everywhere........
- 05-05-2005, 10:40 AM
- 05-05-2005, 10:51 AM
High dose fich oil would have some of the same effects, PPAR activation is the 1st thing that comes to mind, glycogen depletion too.
- 05-05-2005, 02:47 PM
Sesame oil, maybe? I did a 7-week CKD cycle and was taking in close to 4-5 TBSP's a day of the stuff. Seemed to work really well, and it tastes good.
05-05-2005, 03:12 PM
If you can find phenogen that might work for you as well.
05-05-2005, 03:34 PM
I won't argue with results, but unless you are really on a CKD diet (and pounding fats in lieu of carbs) this much sesame oil is probably not good. The sesamin content is so minimal that you really won't benefit in that respect, and sesame oil itself is not super-healthy (re: Omega 3-6-9's), as are fish oil, flax, and to some degree olive oil.Originally Posted by BigVrunga
05-05-2005, 03:54 PM
That's what I was doing - in addition to fish and flax oil I was also supplementing with Sesame oil in order to hit the ~220g of fat a day that was required. Might not have been the sesame oil at all - could have just be the diet.
05-05-2005, 05:01 PM
we may have to assemble a strike force to harden and protect the sesamin pipelines.
I am now officially OUT of Sesathin caps; luckily, I still have 1.5 bottles of Phenogen - but the clock is ticking....
05-05-2005, 07:44 PM
05-05-2005, 07:44 PM
capped?Originally Posted by Par Deus
05-05-2005, 09:02 PM
If you do not have it out by monday.. each day it is late.. i shall have to kill a kitten... between you and sledge and his product... bob barker is proud of me!
05-05-2005, 10:54 PM
Maybe we need a "war of liberation" against whatever country produces this precious, much-sought oil.
05-05-2005, 11:38 PM
"It's a lignan!"
GREAT news, Par!
Is it the raw you're expecting, or salable product?
05-06-2005, 06:49 AM
bb.com has phenogen..thank god i was feinding over here...almost a boys n the hood moment
05-06-2005, 09:02 AM
I saw THAT coming...I wondered if that would come up. But BTW, just what the hell IS a lignan anyway?Originally Posted by BodyWizard
05-06-2005, 09:16 AM
What the heck is a lignan?
From a different site:
And, while I was out, I found this on sesamin specifically:Lignans are natural plant compounds locked in the cell matrix of certain seeds, beans, legumes, fruits, and vegetables. Lignans bear a strong resemblance to estrogen in shape, structure, and some functionality. While lignans resemble estrogen, they are much gentler to the body.
The resemblance of certain and specific lignans to estrogen is highly relevant because estrogen can instigate mutations in cellular DNA that may result in breast cancer. To add insult to injury, estrogen may further fuel these cancers once developed.
The strong resemblance between lignan and estrogen enables lignan to compete against estrogen for estrogen receptor sites on breast cells. Once displaced, excessive or bad estrogens are harmlessly flushed from the body as waste. The interaction between lignans, estrogen, and estrogen receptors has occurred throughout time immemorial, purportedly to buffer and balance the more powerful human hormones. Lignans have a much weaker attraction and must significantly outnumber estrogen molecules in order to effectively compete for, and block, these receptors. A high-in-lignan diet, or supplementation with Brevail, can raise the percentage of lignan to estrogen to a protective 10,000/1 ratio. This appears to be the body's way of self-regulating plant lignans and related compounds in concert with estrogens and other hormones produced by the body. The result is a gentle balance between body and nature, just as nature intended.
Sesame lignan may help control blood pressure
That said, I'm still not sure I know what a lignan is, really....
05-06-2005, 11:28 AM
Sadly (sort of), we got so backordered on the liquid that raws all had to go to that, so caps are once again delayed.Originally Posted by spitboy
05-12-2005, 06:23 AM
For those who have not been paying attention, SesaThin is back and has begun shipping to our retailers.Originally Posted by Par Deus
I think a few are taking pre-orders at a discount for a day or two.
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