I gotta take a stim break......

[DWeaver]

I honestly couldn't tell you the last time I took even a couple days break. So I know this sounds counter productive but what are some sups that will help me keep from being a zombie? Especially in the morning? I got a couple non stim pre workout to take. Thanks.

 

[kbayne]

ALCAR
Ashwaganda

 

[TrainerTone]

What non stim pre's do you have on hand?

 

[DWeaver]

What non stim pre's do you have on hand?

Triumph and High Volume

 

[DWeaver]

ALCAR
Ashwaganda

I take Ash, will pick up some alcar. Thanks

 

[DWeaver]

Also one more note....I'm about to start a Ostar/Alpha Stano run in a couple week and I've read where the Alpha Stano absorption additive can give a stim effect. Is this true and will this be giving me a true stim break.

 

[BamBam0319]

Also one more note....I'm about to start a Ostar/Alpha Stano run in a couple week and I've read where the Alpha Stano absorption additive can give a stim effect. Is this true and will this be giving me a true stim break.

I get a great alpha feeling/aggression from epiandrosterone. It would be a great time to take a stim break while using the alpha stano! It's not a stimulant so I would say you're still getting a true stim break.
The feel you get from epiandro will make it a lot easier to stay away from your stimulant preworkouts and caffeine.
How are you dosing your stano? If you're taking 3 caps a day, you could take one in the morning to get a slight boost to replace that morning coffee or whatever stim you use to get moving for the day. Then take the other 2 caps pre workout

 

[The_Old_Guy]

I honestly couldn't tell you the last time I took even a couple days break. So I know this sounds counter productive but what are some sups that will help me keep from being a zombie? Especially in the morning? I got a couple non stim pre workout to take. Thanks.

You're probably going to feel like crap for a week or so, as the Caffeine clears. I felt run down/lethargic. You may want to taper down to zero over a week or two, instead of going cold turkey. You also may want to grab some Rutaecarpine to help.

 

[McCrew530]

Get some non caffinated coffee... the placebo effect does wonders

 

[HIT4ME]

Cocoa has theobromine which is a stimulant, but much weaker and may help take the edge off. Cocoa in decaf coffee may be useful.

ALCAR, Phenylpiracetam (for the rough mornings only), and rhodiola also come to mind.

 

[DWeaver]

Get some non caffinated coffee... the placebo effect does wonders

I'm more worried about my morning coffee than anything. I was hoping there would be a placebo effect to it.

 

[The_Old_Guy]

I cleared out all Caffeine and then switched to Decaf. I only use Caffeine pre-cardio or weights - no other time. Been great.

 

[Afi140]

Decaf with a gram of alcar twice daily is good. Adrenosurge also has some nice noots/adaptogens that can help you as well.

If it's been that long and depending on how much you consume daily I would look cut it out progressively. If you want to go cold shoulder have the ibuprofen ready. After 4-5 days you should start to get adjust. It's also good to start the break when you're going to be busy doing something new or fun- can help take your mind off of it to an extent. I need one too :/ can't bring myself to do it

 

[Chuck Diesel]

I got this product NOS ETHER I take in the AM for its alertness effects. It has no caffeine, but ALC, tyrosine, vitamins, etc. Even if you don't use it, you need to find or use the ingredients in there (outside the ones in there for Nitric Oxide or creatine related).

 

[DWeaver]

Decaf with a gram of alcar twice daily is good. Adrenosurge also has some nice noots/adaptogens that can help you as well.

If it's been that long and depending on how much you consume daily I would look cut it out progressively. If you want to go cold shoulder have the ibuprofen ready. After 4-5 days you should start to get adjust. It's also good to start the break when you're going to be busy doing something new or fun- can help take your mind off of it to an extent. I need one too :/ can't bring myself to do it

I actually thought about the Adrenosurge. I seems to get good reviews for those running it on a stim break. Could I run a bottle of it with my Ostar/Alpha Stano cycle?

 

[McCrew530]

I actually thought about the Adrenosurge. I seems to get good reviews for those running it on a stim break. Could I run a bottle of it with my Ostar/Alpha Stano cycle?

You could, I would run it in pct though

 

[DWeaver]

You could, I would run it in pct though

Sounds good. Thanks

 

[vujade]

Tyrosine - not a stim, but the Amino that is a pre cursor to L-Dopa. Which it turn will
help you product other endorphins naturally.

http://www.tgbsupplements.com/product/twinlab-l-tyrosine/

Also take some B12 Sublingual and a good B Complex

 

[kboxer7]

Conqu3r UL non-stim provides some pretty solid focus and mental clarity. Taste leaves something to be desired though. Next batch will be better.

Other than that I'll second ALCAR.

Focus XT non-stim

Phenyl P - tolerance issue though

 

[TrainerTone]

Triumph and High Volume

Have not tried Triumph but HV is a great non stim pre. I'd go with that and see how it treats you

 

[DWeaver]

Have not tried Triumph but HV is a great non stim pre. I'd go with that and see how it treats you

If Triumph works as good as it tastes, I've found my go to PWO.

 

[kboxer7]

If Triumph works as good as it tastes, I've found my go to PWO.

You won't be disappointed

 

[Zoomie33240]

Looks like you already have it figured out! I hate stim breaks but they work wonders. Make sure to drink a ton of water! Good luck man!

 

[Whacked]

Good thread. In....

 

[ddubbs]

Hit me up I'll send you some Beta-Lean and since im From Tennesee its the Least I Can Do

 

[booneman77]

Caffiene free focus xt and beta alanine are what I would go for. The ba tingles make me feel energetic and the focus xt gives me a nice little mood boost

 

[DWeaver]

Caffiene free focus xt and beta alanine are what I would go for. The ba tingles make me feel energetic and the focus xt gives me a nice little mood boost

I take BA year around and I agree, the tingles give me a stim sensation.

 

[DWeaver]

Also one more question...... I also use Vasoburn and was wondering if it would effect my stim break? I don't use it every day, just when I do cardio or an up tempo weight circuit.

 

[Zoomie33240]

Hit me up I'll send you some Beta-Lean and since im From Tennesee its the Least I Can Do

Makes 3 of us from TN up in here!

 

[DWeaver]

Makes 3 of us from TN up in here!

Word...

 

[Chefdeez]

I find no reason to take a stim break honestly. Just cycle different products/ingredients.

 

[booneman77]

I find no reason to take a stim break honestly. Just cycle different products/ingredients.

Have you ever taken one? A month off is night and day. I've gone from taking 400mg c and 50mg e and falling asleep to having a headache after 150mg c alone.

 

[Misfit28]

Makes 3 of us from TN up in here!

4 now

 

[Misfit28]

Conqu3r UL non-stim provides some pretty solid focus and mental clarity. Taste leaves something to be desired though. Next batch will be better.

Other than that I'll second ALCAR.

Focus XT non-stim

Phenyl P - tolerance issue though

Great suggestions here. I'd also recommend the Adrenosurge as well.

 

[Chefdeez]

Have you ever taken one? A month off is night and day. I've gone from taking 400mg c and 50mg e and falling asleep to having a headache after 150mg c alone.

Yeah I've taken 6 weeks off before. I don't consume massive amounts of stims so maybe I'm just different. Never really noticed a difference.

 

[booneman77]

Yeah I've taken 6 weeks off before. I don't consume massive amounts of stims so maybe I'm just different. Never really noticed a difference.

If you're not building up a tolerance then I totally agree, no reason to cycle off. If you're pushing 500mg of caff though and barely get out of bed... Time for a change ha

 

[LovingtoLift]

Keep Supplementing with High Volume but invest in some Purple Wraath for the next month. 45 servings in the tub will last you long enough for your stim break and then once that is gone you will be ready to go again with a pre-workout that contains caffeine. Once that happens invest in some Alphamine.

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

If you're not building up a tolerance then I totally agree, no reason to cycle off. If you're pushing 500mg of caff though and barely get out of bed... Time for a change ha

agreed there took 3 weeks off from 500 mg+ and 160 had me amped

 

[MattPorter]

Also one more question...... I also use Vasoburn and was wondering if it would effect my stim break? I don't use it every day, just when I do cardio or an up tempo weight circuit.

I really havent gotten beta stimulation or typical caffeine or yohmbine type effects.... it could be just fine fro down time for powerful oral stims.

-Matt

 

[NoAddedHmones]

Have you ever taken one? A month off is night and day. I've gone from taking 400mg c and 50mg e and falling asleep to having a headache after 150mg c alone.

Bet those first three days after your break were amazing, how quick were you back smashing big amounts again? be honest

 

[ddubbs]

Wow ..Of Course Flex Lewis used to Train in Tennessee and Brandon Curry Still Does..We Are on The Map for Bodybuilding

 

[booneman77]

Bet those first three days after your break were amazing, how quick were you back smashing big amounts again? be honest

actually I have never let it get that bad since then. I think I've been able to stay below 350-400mg c alone with breaks every 3-4 months or so. I was able to stay at much lower doses for a long time after so I felt like it was totally worth it.

 

[The_Old_Guy]

actually I have never let it get that bad since then. I think I've been able to stay below 350-400mg c alone with breaks every 3-4 months or so. I was able to stay at much lower doses for a long time after so I felt like it was totally worth it.

I did the same - switched to Decaf (I drink ~32oz at Breakfast) and only crush up 300mg to add to E9/Tr1umph/Homebrew PrWO. No Caffeine at any other time except for any that might be in Cocoa.

 

[Akagami]

Ashwaganda

The most unmentioned yet most useful supplement maybe.

I have some of this stuff coming in a week or so and it will have been a couple years since I used it. Can't wait to try to gauge it again.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

The most unmentioned yet most useful supplement maybe.

I have some of this stuff coming in a week or so and it will have been a couple years since I used it. Can't wait to try to gauge it again.

I love ashwagandha. I think that ash, as well as adaptogens in general, have been getting some well deserved attention around here lately.

 

[warbird01]

Caffein free Focus XT ftw! I always take a 4-6 week stim break after my semester is done. ****s crazy when I start back up taking caffein, i love it.