Max LMG write-up?
- 04-21-2005, 01:17 PM
Originally Posted by colkurtz_spf
My sceptism has nothing to do with the product itself. Its just that it is very difficult, if not impossible, to not only maintain 100% of LBM gained during a cycle, but to actually continue those gains. When you say continued body recomp, this insinuates exactly that. Trust me, most people will tell you that if you can maintain 80% of your gains post cycle, your PCT was very successful.
- 04-21-2005, 01:17 PM
Originally Posted by colkurtz_spf
04-21-2005, 01:38 PM
No, I'm not keeping a log. I had some bloodwork done a few weeks ago, and my doctor informed me that my estrogen levels were elevated. I had been on a tribulus product for a while and decided to stop it and give HOT a try. I should be taking another test sometime next week. The results will be in ten days later. If everything checks out I'll start the stack that I mentioned and keep a log. I will also post the change in estrogen levels, if any when I get the results back from the lab.Originally Posted by size
04-21-2005, 01:40 PM
I hear you. I don't expect to maintain 100% of my gains, nor do I expect to gain a significant amount of fat. I have a pretty strict diet and do cardio 6 days per week.Originally Posted by bow
04-21-2005, 01:43 PM
04-21-2005, 02:01 PM
Thanks! Recomp was a bad choice of words. By itself I think you might see some, but after a cycle I'd doubt it. Hopefully it will work well to restore levels and maintain.Originally Posted by bow
04-21-2005, 04:57 PM
I would agree with this, however, I think if you would talk to many people about Ergomax, their prevous product, near 100% gain retention was nearly the norm. True, this is a different product, but it's obvious ALRI has done it's research, and at least with Ergomax, they backed up their claims VERY well. As for that product, I wonder if a PCT was even necessary, though most of us did it anyway for precautionary reasons (liver especially). Gainwise, I didn't lose anything but 2 lbs. immediately afterwards which I believe was water. From the other logs it appears that was pretty typical. With these types of results I'd suggest many of us are very excited and hope this product can give us 75% of what ERgo gave us.
Originally Posted by bow
04-21-2005, 05:01 PM
I will say though that I think Lean Xtreme can be attributed to much of my lack of fat gain during PCT (actually lost belly weight). That's certainly a product I'd recommend to all.
Originally Posted by bow
04-22-2005, 11:19 PM
Im sorta contemplating a cycle of LMG. If i do decide to do a cycle i will keep a log for sure. Only thing im really wondering about is if any lethargy could occur from this product.
04-23-2005, 12:01 AM
LETHARGY IS A SIDE EFFECT THAT EXTREME ANDROGENICS SUCH AS M1T HAVE( OF COURSE WE CAN NOT COMPARE M1T TO AN OTC SUPPLEMENT) MOST USERS OF MAX LMG REPORT INCREASED ENERGY.Originally Posted by CyberMuscle
04-23-2005, 12:13 AM
Excelent, i was about to email you till I noticed you had replied to my question. Congrats on ALRI becoming board sponsorsOriginally Posted by RAVEN
04-23-2005, 03:01 PM
04-23-2005, 03:22 PM
aside from those who have mentioned stacking LMG with MAX, anyone thinking of other stacks to try with MAX? Or, what WOULD work well, what WOULD NOT work well based on what is known of its structure and characteristics???
04-23-2005, 05:33 PM
04-23-2005, 05:35 PM
What about stacking it with M1T? (I think I've asked this before but nobody responded...guess because M1T is illegal now.)
04-23-2005, 05:45 PM
While we can theorize the effects of this compound based on structure the past has taught us better. It's my belief that anytime you run a compound for the first time you should NOT stack it with anything. This will allow you to better determine the effects of the compound. Once we have more user feedback about this product it will be easier to determine what should be stacked with it. Given that it's purportedly a dry compound you would naturally stack it with a wet one.Originally Posted by milwood
But if ALRI had the intentions of this being stacked with the now defunct Ergomax then I'm at a loss. Both products are supposdely dry compounds so there seems to be a bit of redundancy but until someone tries it who knows.
04-23-2005, 05:50 PM
04-23-2005, 06:08 PM
I'm doing a short 6 week cycle of tren ace and test suspension in a few months, I was thinking of adding max to that stack. Still haven't decided yet.Originally Posted by milwood
04-23-2005, 07:04 PM
04-23-2005, 07:26 PM
Hows it going? I am thinking of a max/superdrol stack also, what dosages are you running?Originally Posted by aflexaholic
04-23-2005, 07:28 PM
Max LMG 75mg dailyOriginally Posted by enimity
Superdrol 20mg daily
Some may step the superdrol up but for me this is plenty.
04-23-2005, 07:33 PM
04-23-2005, 07:44 PM
I am thinking about a SD and LMG Stack also. It won't happen till this summer though so by then there will be plenty advice and info out there. Let us know how it goes Aflex!
04-23-2005, 08:49 PM
Sure thing. What size person was the 3 tabs a day designed for. Just wondering if i would need an extra tab a day than your normal sized person considering im 6'5.5" at 248lbs.Originally Posted by RAVEN
04-26-2005, 03:21 PM
I have some sdrol laying around, but am in the middle of a cut. Would this compound lend itself better for leaning down/retaining muscle? On paper SD looked to be dry as well, but reports showed otherwise. That is why I am hesitant to run the sdrol right now.....(along with the issues concerning lipids and liver values). IMHO, I would rather run somehting for 4-6 wks and only gain 3-6 lbs or so along with some strength and loss in bfat as opposed to the extremely quick onset of weight users are reporting from sdrol inclusing a typical inch in the waist
04-26-2005, 03:40 PM
13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)-diene-17-one thats what's is in max LMG I must admit I'm confused about this compound its a progestin ALRI said ? I know this is not a test compound obviously but we need more info...
04-26-2005, 04:33 PM
"As a progestin, Max LMG™ is structurally related to the so-called abortion pill RU-486"Originally Posted by Julien
Does anybody have any studies on how RU486 effects males?
04-26-2005, 05:29 PM
yeah but its STRUCTURALLY related fortunately max LMG is not an absorption pill lol. This compound is still obscure to be, author L.rea gotta explain us !
found a definition of progestins on the net... things seems a bit clearer to me now :As a progestin, Max LMG is structurally related to the so-called abortion pill RU-486 and as such acts as an "anti-progesterone". Yes, this means decreased estrogen-like effects and an increase in libido.
A progestin is a synthetic progestagen. These particular synthetic hormones are most often used in the production of contraceptives.
Progestins are classified according to their structure in C19 and C21 progestagens. The C19 ones are derived from testosterone, the C21 ones from progesterone. C21 progestagens include cyproterone acetate, dydrogesterone, medroxyprogesterone acetate, chlormadinone acetate, megestrol and promegestone. Of these, dydrogesterone is structurally most similar to progesterone. C19 progestagens include norethisterone, (levo)norgestrel, lynestrenol, desogestrel, norgestimate, gestodene and tibolone.
now you're probably wondering what are progestagens here you go
Progestagens (also spelled progestogens or gestagens) are hormones similar in effect to progesterone, the only natural progestagen. All other progestagens are synthetic and are often referred to as progestins. All progestagens have antiestrogenic (counteracting the effects of estrogens on the body) and antigonadotropic (inhibiting the production of sex steroids by gonads) properties. Progestagens differ in their potency (affinity for progesterone receptors) and side-effects. Such side-effects may be androgenic (medroxyprogesterone and most C19 progestagens), antiandrogenic (cyproterone acetate), estrogenic, glucocorticoid (some C21 progestagens) or antimineralocorticoid (progesterone).
ok so to resume I think this compound is only pharmacologically related to the family of progestins (thus avoiding the ban) but because of its unique structure it must have strong AR binding affinities and also have anti-estrogens effects, like author R.Lea said on the description of the product. I've also learn for those wondering about this contraception pill stuff the chemical structure name in order to compare it to max LMG : 11β-17β-hydroxy-17-(1-propynyl)estra-4,9-dien-3-one. So as you can see we do not have to worry about taking an contraception pill lol
04-26-2005, 06:11 PM
I am thinking it could be very similar to either nandrolone or trenbolone, since it is a progestin. We need to make up codes for this stuff that way it isnt obvious as to what we are comparing them to
04-26-2005, 06:34 PM
actually I never understood why nandrolone and trenbolone are qualified of progestins, nandrolone is nortestosterone right so how can it be a progestin ? i'm confusedI am thinking it could be very similar to either nandrolone or trenbolone, since it is a progestin. We need to make up codes for this stuff that way it isnt obvious as to what we are comparing them to
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