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  1. Quote Originally Posted by jerolddaviking
    anyone ever tried hotrox? am planning to take it
    Yes! Don't waste your money! Spend it elsewhere! This product does Nothing!


  2. HEAT, subltle CNS effects, great fat-burning effects...perfect...Dim
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  3. i tried hot rox and was terribly dissapointed, returned it and bought some Rev XP by NxCare and couldnt be happier

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Mr.50
    bump again for HEAT. Great stuff especially to keep the mood up while dieting and getting results.
    I'm very sensitive to ephedra/caffiene so would HEAT be bad idea for me?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Elizzard
    I'm very sensitive to ephedra/caffiene so would HEAT be bad idea for me?
    I wouldn't think so because it's designed to reduce the jitters that you get with the E/C. Here's the write-up from Nutraplanet:http://www.nutraplanet.com/product_i...roducts_id=374

    I'm sure that Loki, Prolangtum, or Par Deus might be able to give you a much more definitive answer if you posed this question to them in the Avant section.
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  6. Nope you should be good with HEAT. Very little CNS stim except improvement of mental outlook.



    Quote Originally Posted by Elizzard
    I'm very sensitive to ephedra/caffiene so would HEAT be bad idea for me?

  7. are there any suggestions of things to stack with HEAT? maybe synephrine or caffeine?

  8. Check out my post in the Avant forum titles Heat and Phenogen. I've lost 22lbs in 5.5 weeks.

  9. How does HEAT compare to a homebew stack? My last stack was

    5am 25mg y + 200mg c
    8am 25mg e + 200mg c + 500mg G
    12pm 25mg e + 200mg c + 500mg G
    4 pm 25mg e + 200mg c + 500mg G

    E= Ephedrine G = Green Tea Extract C = caffine Y =Yohimbine

    wasnt too thrilled with the results

  10. Mr.50 congrats on your weight loss! you must be very dedicated!

  11. I am but I really feel that the supplement regimine has helped a ton. In the past I have been this dedicated and never gotten results like this even with Trimax or T3 included. I guess all of the supps really have a synergistic effect. I can almost see my bottom two abs well now and the rest of my abs look pretty good.

    Mr.50


    Quote Originally Posted by theamazing3000
    Mr.50 congrats on your weight loss! you must be very dedicated!

  12. I have enjoyed Redline for awhile now. Looking to try h.e.a.t..
  13. ItriedtoripoffBobosonowIamgonehaveaniceday
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    The 7-OH is fine in a transdermal....I believe the only person to have tried it was Jminis and he said he liked it! Sledge where are you with the Dermal!

  14. Just out of curiousity Mr. 50....you said that you had better luck with the HEAT and Phenogen stack than Triamax and T3...did you change your diet or workouts between the 2? Also....22 lbs is a lot...how much did you weigh before you started taking it?

    I'm interested in trying something else, just wanted to see how effective it actually was. Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.50
    C I've lost 22lbs in 5.5 weeks.

  15. I am actually taking the Trimax, Phenogen, and HEAT all right now (until Saturday) I started at 198 lbs and 12% - 13% bf. Right now I am actually down to 175-176 with about 8% - 9% bf; so a ton of weight loss but a lot of LBM loss also; of course all of this was without any anabolic support. If I had used a aas/ps/ph I would have sharpened up even more (this is the plan for later in the summer) but for right now I actually had to lose weight on the scale. Did not change diet or cardio drastically between the times I have tried Trimax alone and this protocol so I have to believe there is a synergistic effect with the combo.

    Saturday I will begin an Ergomax, Max LMG, Clout, Body Octane, cycle for a short while (3 weeks or so).

    Mr.50


    Quote Originally Posted by Elizzard
    Just out of curiousity Mr. 50....you said that you had better luck with the HEAT and Phenogen stack than Triamax and T3...did you change your diet or workouts between the 2? Also....22 lbs is a lot...how much did you weigh before you started taking it?

    I'm interested in trying something else, just wanted to see how effective it actually was. Thanks!

  16. Quote Originally Posted by DieTrying
    I like Tight
    I just bought soem tight...did you stick with one cap a day....good results?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by italionstallion
    are there any suggestions of things to stack with HEAT? maybe synephrine or caffeine?
    See thread in regards to caffeine.

    H.E.A.T questions

  18. USPlabs cAMP - Worked excellent, lost tons of fat while preserving muscle, no sides

    SAN's Tight - Awesome product, worked well with ephedrine, lost tons of fat and was full of energy. A great budget product that I can trust.

    Biotest's HotRox - Horrible product, didn't do a damn thing for me

    Universal Animal Cuts - Went through two cans, one stacked with ephedra, lost minimal fat at best, piss stunk like hell and the pills are a pain in the ass, not worth your time and doesn't do ****.

    Cytodyne's Xenadrine EFX- You have got to be joking, the old RF1 back in the day worked but without ephedra this product is a joke. Pricey urine is what you pay for.

    E/C Stack - Awesome, kick ass, works, inexpensive, good ****!!

    Don't buy any of those cheap, bargain no name fat burner imitations at the local superstore either. They are all crap and don't work.

  19. I really like Tight! by San the best. It really works, doesn't just give you nervous energy, but actually does cut fat. And it does it without making you jittery, just a little bit of a nice increase in energy througout the whole day. Best of all it does it with just one pill a day. I'm all about that stuff.

  20. I recommend USP Camphobolic + caffeine, hands down.

    BV

  21. Quote Originally Posted by scottyroc
    I really like Tight! by San the best. It really works, doesn't just give you nervous energy, but actually does cut fat. And it does it without making you jittery, just a little bit of a nice increase in energy througout the whole day. Best of all it does it with just one pill a day. I'm all about that stuff.
    Your a squid...a fat squid....
  22. Hey Striate


    Quote Originally Posted by Striate
    Your a squid...a fat squid....
    wow...just wow

  23. Quote Originally Posted by italionstallion
    are there any suggestions of things to stack with HEAT? maybe synephrine or caffeine?
    Those, as well as green tea.

  24. C-AMP, hands down.

  25. How would any of the mentioned products compare to a 4 to 6 week Clenbuterol run? Are any of todays fatburners "better" than clen?

  26. Quote Originally Posted by hognose
    How would any of the mentioned products compare to a 4 to 6 week Clenbuterol run? Are any of todays fatburners "better" than clen?
    Not as potent no, Clen is a drug, after all, and a strong one at that.

    Clen has numerous downsides however (bad for cardiac function, downregulates beta2 adrenergic receptors, hinders aerobic endurance, makes one generally tweak and feel ****ty, can't suppress appetite).

    I think the best protocol personally, if you are clen-inclined (I will admit, I like the stuff too), is to get a good lipolytic (like HEAT or EC), run it straight through, and cycle Clen 1 week on, 1 week off. Then you get the best of all worlds.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Loki
    Clen has numerous downsides however (bad for cardiac function, downregulates beta2 adrenergic receptors, hinders aerobic endurance, makes one generally tweak and feel ****ty, can't suppress appetite).
    People that used Clen topically (almost anyone with lipoderm) reported less sides.
    BTW, Albuterol has much less sides: more people should use it with or without other stuff.

    Oh and I would also consider T3/Trimax and GH to cover the other aspect of "strong" more-or-less licit fat loss agent.

  28. Wait wait...I've got the BEST fat burner out there...

    CARDIO!!!!



    Sorry, had to say it. (but its true!)

    CAMPH sure does help though.
  29. Agreed


    Quote Originally Posted by BigVrunga
    Wait wait...I've got the BEST fat burner out there...

    CARDIO!!!!



    Sorry, had to say it. (but its true!)

    CAMPH sure does help though.
    Can't argue with any of this, I absolutely agree

  30. I think aerobic cardio is vastly overrated, not to mention about as boring as watching paint dry.


    Sprinting, however, owns ****.
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