- 04-23-2005, 11:04 AM
- 04-23-2005, 01:10 PM
04-25-2005, 11:56 PM
i tried hot rox and was terribly dissapointed, returned it and bought some Rev XP by NxCare and couldnt be happier
04-26-2005, 12:48 AM
04-26-2005, 01:56 AM
I wouldn't think so because it's designed to reduce the jitters that you get with the E/C. Here's the write-up from Nutraplanet:http://www.nutraplanet.com/product_i...roducts_id=374Originally Posted by Elizzard
I'm sure that Loki, Prolangtum, or Par Deus might be able to give you a much more definitive answer if you posed this question to them in the Avant section.
04-26-2005, 09:54 AM
Nope you should be good with HEAT. Very little CNS stim except improvement of mental outlook.
Originally Posted by Elizzard
04-26-2005, 10:35 AM
04-26-2005, 11:41 AM
04-26-2005, 09:06 PM
How does HEAT compare to a homebew stack? My last stack was
5am 25mg y + 200mg c
8am 25mg e + 200mg c + 500mg G
12pm 25mg e + 200mg c + 500mg G
4 pm 25mg e + 200mg c + 500mg G
E= Ephedrine G = C = caffine Y =
wasnt too thrilled with the results
04-26-2005, 09:35 PM
04-26-2005, 10:14 PM
I am but I really feel that the supplement regimine has helped a ton. In the past I have been this dedicated and never gotten results like this even with Trimax or T3 included. I guess all of the supps really have a synergistic effect. I can almost see my bottom two abs well now and the rest of my abs look pretty good.
Originally Posted by theamazing3000
04-27-2005, 04:47 PM
04-27-2005, 04:52 PM
The 7-OH is fine in a transdermal....I believe the only person to have tried it was Jminis and he said he liked it! Sledge where are you with the Dermal!
04-27-2005, 10:37 PM
Just out of curiousity Mr. 50....you said that you had better luck with the HEAT and Phenogen stack than Triamax and T3...did you change your diet or workouts between the 2? Also....22 lbs is a lot...how much did you weigh before you started taking it?
I'm interested in trying something else, just wanted to see how effective it actually was. Thanks!
Originally Posted by Mr.50
04-27-2005, 11:44 PM
I am actually taking the Trimax, Phenogen, and HEAT all right now (until Saturday) I started at 198 lbs and 12% - 13% bf. Right now I am actually down to 175-176 with about 8% - 9% bf; so a ton of weight loss but a lot of LBM loss also; of course all of this was without any anabolic support. If I had used a aas/ps/ph I would have sharpened up even more (this is the plan for later in the summer) but for right now I actually had to lose weight on the scale. Did not change diet or cardio drastically between the times I have tried Trimax alone and this protocol so I have to believe there is a synergistic effect with the combo.
Saturday I will begin an Ergomax, Max LMG, Clout, Body Octane, cycle for a short while (3 weeks or so).
Originally Posted by Elizzard
07-13-2005, 10:24 AM
I just bought soem tight...did you stick with one cap a day....good results?Originally Posted by DieTrying
07-13-2005, 12:32 PM
07-14-2005, 11:55 AM
USPlabs cAMP - Worked e****lent, lost tons of fat while preserving muscle, no sides
SAN's Tight - Awesome product, worked well with ephedrine, lost tons of fat and was full of energy. A great budget product that I can trust.
Biotest's HotRox - Horrible product, didn't do a damn thing for me
Universal Animal Cuts - Went through two cans, one stacked with ephedra, lost minimal fat at best, piss stunk like hell and the pills are a pain in the ass, not worth your time and doesn't do ****.
Cytodyne's Xenadrine EFX- You have got to be joking, the old RF1 back in the day worked but without ephedra this product is a joke. Pricey urine is what you pay for.
E/C Stack - Awesome, kick ass, works, inexpensive, good ****!!
Don't buy any of those cheap, bargain no name fat burner imitations at the local superstore either. They are all crap and don't work.
07-14-2005, 04:54 PM
I really like Tight! by San the best. It really works, doesn't just give you nervous energy, but actually does cut fat. And it does it without making you jittery, just a little bit of a nice increase in energy througout the whole day. Best of all it does it with just one pill a day. I'm all about that stuff.
07-14-2005, 06:33 PM
07-15-2005, 12:02 PM
07-15-2005, 02:50 PM
07-15-2005, 04:36 PM
07-15-2005, 07:04 PM
07-15-2005, 07:40 PM
How would any of the mentioned products compare to a 4 to 6 week Clenbuterol run? Are any of todays fatburners "better" than clen?
07-16-2005, 04:13 PM
Not as potent no, Clen is a drug, after all, and a strong one at that.Originally Posted by hognose
Clen has numerous downsides however (bad for cardiac function, downregulates beta2 adrenergic receptors, hinders aerobic endurance, makes one generally tweak and feel ****ty, can't suppress appetite).
I think the best protocol personally, if you are clen-inclined (I will admit, I like the stuff too), is to get a good lipolytic (like HEAT or EC), run it straight through, and cycle Clen 1 week on, 1 week off. Then you get the best of all worlds.
07-16-2005, 05:09 PM
People that used Clen topically (almost anyone with lipoderm) reported less sides.Originally Posted by Loki
BTW, Albuterol has much less sides: more people should use it with or without other stuff.
Oh and I would also consider T3/Trimax and GH to cover the other aspect of "strong" more-or-less licit fat loss agent.
07-17-2005, 03:35 PM
Wait wait...I've got the BEST fat burner out there...
Sorry, had to say it. (but its true!)
CAMPH sure does help though.
07-17-2005, 04:19 PM
07-17-2005, 04:32 PM
I think aerobic cardio is vastly overrated, not to mention about as boring as watching paint dry.
Sprinting, however, owns ****.
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