Is a fat burner like Alphamine necessary if you take a pre-workout?

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Say a guy takes a solid pre-workout with caffeine. Normally that said individual takes a scoop and a half of it.

Would adding Alphamine really make any difference or what?
 
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I wouldn't stack Alphamine and your Preworkout, no.

But, Alphamine and a pre workout are two totally different supplements.
 
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Preworkouts are usually an endurance and pump product with stimulants to promote focus and energy.

Alphamine is a fat burner. IIRC, the caffeine is used to increase fat loss. If you take Alphamine, you won't see increased pumps, vascularity, or increased endurance.
 
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One is a fat burning thermogenic the other is a preworkout.

In theory Alphamine can make nice preworkout, but the true preworkout consists of ingredients designed to aid in workout. Stim, pump, hydration, blood flow, recovey, etc.
 
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Don't pre-workouts help you burn fat also? So why take Alphamine if you take a solid Pre with good stims?
 
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One is a fat burning thermogenic the other is a preworkout.

In theory Alphamine can make nice preworkout, but the true preworkout consists of ingredients designed to aid in workout. Stim, pump, hydration, blood flow, recovey, etc.
^this. Also, Alphamine contains a very strong appetite suppressant. You couldn't use Alphamine as a pre, but other products will give you better benefits in regards to your workout. Alphamine is great pre-cardio though
 
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A preworkout is generally designed to improve your performance, recovery, and focus in the gym.

Alphamine is totally focused towards fat loss. Though, HICA aids in recovery. In theory, adding Creatine, Beta Alanine, TMG, a pump product, etc would turn Alphamine into a Fat Burning PWO.

Or you could just take Target A2 fasted with your PWO.
 
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There is much more to it than just stims. Good fat burners like Alphamine, Norcodrene, OxyMax XT contain ingredients that hit multiple pathways to burn fat, provide energy, and suppress appetite.
 
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Don't pre-workouts help you burn fat also? So why take Alphamine if you take a solid Pre with good stims?
No, not generally. The profiles serve very different purposes. The only similarities are in the stim content (the buzz feeling). I wouldn't rely on caffeine to "burn fat" and so the other ingredients in a fat burner are there to mobilise fatty acids and/ or increase the burning of these fatty acids - as well as increase fat loss through other pathways (or inhibit fat gain).

A pre workout should be ideally designed to enhance a workout. Stimulation for energy/ focus, pump products for increased blood flow, ergogenic aid etc etc.
 
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Alphamine can work as a pre, as it contains stims. However, there are ingredients added specifically for fat loss (olive leaf is just one example) and other things to help mood, focus, appetite suppression, and increase thermogenesis.
This holds true for any fat burner that contains stims such as OxyMax XT.

Usually preworkouts will have other product in there that make it easier to get a pump like agmatine, cit malate, and some other things
 
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Alphamine works as a pre workout but I won't use it solo without any pump ingredients.

Alphamine/ and non stim pre of choice. Mine is high volume is my go too.
 
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I run Alphamine and high volume as a pre workout. Works great for me.
 
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No, and not recommended (depending on dose amounts of both products) if you're talking a stimulant based pre-workout.

Many love Alphamine pre-workout for its quick burst of energy and focus, as well as increased body temp/sweating.
 
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Literally just had two scoops of margarita Alphamine as my pre workout.

Alphamine + High Volume = Winning
 
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Preworkouts are usually an endurance and pump product with stimulants to promote focus and energy.

Alphamine is a fat burner. IIRC, the caffeine is used to increase fat loss. If you take Alphamine, you won't see increased pumps, vascularity, or increased endurance.
Agreed. No need to double down on Stims. Id **** my pants on the way to a heart attack. I mix my Alphamine with about 10 grams of BCAAs and have a great mixture that makes me feel awesome. Its great energy with some performance enhancement.
 
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Literally just had two scoops of margarita Alphamine as my pre workout. Alphamine + High Volume = Winning
Thermopump stack for all the best in one.

Alphamine fat burning and energy kick stacked with stim free High Volume with every pump/endurance ingredient you could want
 
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Literally just had two scoops of margarita Alphamine as my pre workout.

Alphamine + High Volume = Winning
What flavor HV, doi?
 
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What flavor HV, doi?
I can't mix them together. I am worried I will ruin two great flavours lol.

I have no preference on High Volume. They are both awesome. :)

Have you tried mixing and matching? If so, what worked best? I would guess something like strawberry pina colada and paradise cooler.
 
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I can't mix them together. I am worried I will ruin two great flavours lol.

I have no preference on High Volume. They are both awesome. :)

Have you tried mixing and matching? If so, what worked best? I would guess something like strawberry pina colada and paradise cooler.
Haven't personally mixed Alphamine and High Volume yet. Just High Volume and Ergonine.

Also haven't tried any of the new Alphamine flavors as of yet :)
 
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Haven't personally mixed Alphamine and High Volume yet. Just High Volume and Ergonine.

Also haven't tried any of the new Alphamine flavors as of yet :)
Stawberry colada is the best. Not to much of a fan of the appletini. It's good but not the best

Alphamine and HV Is a great combo. Need to try it ASAP.
 

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Has anyone tried alphamine with ergonine? Just wondering since I've tried alphamine with high volume.
 
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Has anyone tried alphamine with ergonine? Just wondering since I've tried alphamine with high volume.
Kbayne just said he did. I'm sure he'll see your comment and answer
 
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Has anyone tried alphamine with ergonine? Just wondering since I've tried alphamine with high volume.
We sure have,
I quite like RL/Nanaberry
SPC/Nanaberry is great too

Great drink pre
 
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Someone recommend where I should buy my Alphamine. I want to try it out.
 
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If you like fruit punch, give me a PM. I know where you can get it cheap.
 
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No problem bro.
Glad I could help! Enjoy the run!
 
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If I take this stuff before breakfast, is it safe to take a scoop of pre-workout since I workout in the evening hours?
 
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If I take this stuff before breakfast, is it safe to take a scoop of pre-workout since I workout in the evening hours?
Yes that generally shouldn't cause any issues.
 
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Ok and one more question and then I'll shut the **** up.

If I take this stuff with a non stim fat burner, will that **** things up or will it be productive?

Here's the ingredient label. Im currently taking Leanmode from EVL nutrition..........

Garcinia Cambogia Extract 500 mg †
(std. min. 60% HCA) (fruit rind)
Green Coffee Bean Extract 500 mg †
CLA (Conjugated Linoleic Acid) 500 mg †
Acetyl-L-Carnitine 500 mg †
Green Tea Leaf Extract 250 mg †
(std. min. 60% EGCG)
 
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Ok and one more question and then I'll shut the **** up.

If I take this stuff with a non stim fat burner, will that **** things up or will it be productive?

Here's the ingredient label. Im currently taking Leanmode from EVL nutrition..........

Garcinia Cambogia Extract 500 mg †
(std. min. 60% HCA) (fruit rind)
Green Coffee Bean Extract 500 mg †
CLA (Conjugated Linoleic Acid) 500 mg †
Acetyl-L-Carnitine 500 mg †
Green Tea Leaf Extract 250 mg †
(std. min. 60% EGCG)
That's fine to take with Alphamine.

Although you goofed up not going with Shift :)
 
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True story. Shift and Alphamine is a great stack.
 
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I just took a scoop of Alphamine . I will not be combining this **** with a pre-workout.
 
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I just took a scoop of Alphamine . I will not be combining this **** with a pre-workout.
Ha good idea. Alphamine alone provides plenty of energy.
 
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Yeah no reason to. Never took it before and after 10 minutes it started hitting me hard. I actually had to get up and start moving around it was so intense.
 
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Yeah no reason to. Never took it before and after 10 minutes it started hitting me hard. I actually had to get up and start moving around it was so intense.
The power of Alphamine :)
 
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I just took a scoop of Alphamine . I will not be combining this **** with a pre-workout.
Now you see why I said I would **** my pants on the way to a heart attack.....it blew my doors off.
 
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I should have probably only done a half a scoop at first. It is strong for a supplement.
 
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I can't mix them together. I am worried I will ruin two great flavours lol.

I have no preference on High Volume. They are both awesome. :)

Have you tried mixing and matching? If so, what worked best? I would guess something like strawberry pina colada and paradise cooler.
Blue Frost HV + Nanaberry Ergonine + Appletini Alphamine = Candy Grape flavor
Nanaberry Ergonine + Margarita Alphamine = Lemon Coke / Classic Cola flavor
 
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Blue Frost HV + Nanaberry Ergonine + Appletini Alphamine = Candy Grape flavor
Nanaberry Ergonine + Margarita Alphamine = Lemon Coke / Classic Cola flavor
That sounds good. But I don't know why someone would need all that lol. That's crazy
 
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Bayne,

Do you take it twice per day or once per day?
Most use it twice per day; a 2 scoop dose and a 1 scoop dose about 5-6 hours apart (once tolerance has been assessed). I'd suggest slowly working up to a 2 scoop dose, based on your initial response.
 
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Bayne,

Do you take it twice per day or once per day?
when i tried out alphamine (dat appletini flavor) I did twice a day.
Started at 1scoop in the am, then 1.5 then 2.
Then later in the afternoon I had another
 

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