- 04-21-2005, 07:14 PM
Kanna is the ****. Totally kills anxiety at 700mg (2-350's). My head feels borderline on headache, but not in a bad way. Like a cool feeling, and when I relax my head (brain), it feels good. Only side effect I am noticing is dry mouth and I'm really thirsty too. Took this stuff at 4:00, felt effects 15-20min later, its 6pm now, still feeling the light but very noticible buzz.
- 04-22-2005, 12:47 PM
I stopped by the Fiji Market in my area yesterday. Hmm, I wonder why i would do that???
Lo and behold, guess what they had there: kavakava, of course! The lady asked me if I want the srong one or the mild one. I did the right thing. She said it was imported from Fiji, and gave me some tips on preparation.
She also invited me to go in the back 'where there were some people drinking kava'. I declined, thinking that maybe they were preparing it the traditional way, by having a bunch of old ladies sit around, chew it, and spit the juice into a bowl, then passing the bowl around. Hell, no.
But I took it home and had some. I'd say it was double the strength of the KavaKing stuff I usually buy, but at $20lb it was less than half price.
05-04-2005, 04:46 PM
Do NOT order from ethnobotanicals.com
I placed my order with Pure Land Ethnobotanicals on April 19th. I have yet to receive my order or delivery confirmation from them. My CC was charged on April 21st. I sent them a polite email April 28th inquiring about the status of my order and have not heard back. I sent them another email yesterday, still no reply. Their toll free order line is no longer in service.Originally Posted by Sir Foxx
13 complaints with the WI BBB online in the past 36 months: http://www.wisconsin.bbb.org/commonr...l?b****25000920
I know Sir Foxx isn't affiliated, I just quoted him so that people would know not to use that link.
05-04-2005, 07:15 PM
05-04-2005, 07:17 PM
Interesting...I took 350 mg and didn't feel a thing..maybe i should try doubling it. I was about to throw it out, lol.
Originally Posted by darius
05-04-2005, 08:28 PM
I have noticed something strange with Kava. For me to get any effect, I have to chew the pills or open them up in my mouth. I don't feel anything when I swallow them.. but when I chew them, holy crap, makes me feel so good. I feel like meditating (I never meditate) or just relaxing. Can definitely feel them working. Plus when you chew them it makes your tongue numb .
05-04-2005, 10:20 PM
Thanks for the heads up. The only problem I had with them was that they were out of stock for good amount of time after I placed my order. They always answered my emails and offered my money back, but I just waited until they got some new stuff in. Sorry about your situation. I guess this company gets scratched off my list.Originally Posted by intv
05-04-2005, 10:40 PM
FWIW I called and left a message on the phone number listed on my CC bill, and about 30 minutes later had an email in my inbox stating only, "it's in the mail, thanks." I waited for a few days before worrying, since I know I've been spoiled by the board sponsors and 1fast, and I know everyone operates on their on time frame. I really wouldn't have minded if he would have just replied to my email sooner. Hopefully I'll still get it in this week and it'll be good stuff.Originally Posted by Sir Foxx
05-05-2005, 12:47 PM
05-05-2005, 03:33 PM
make no mistake - I won't be ordering from ethnobotanicals again. if I find that I like kava period, I'll try some from kava king.Originally Posted by poison
05-05-2005, 03:46 PM
No dude, the absolute best place to buy Kava is www.iamshaman.com. That place amazing customer service, and ships very very fast. I have ordered twice from them very recently, and will keep continuing to do so. My last order was over $30, so I chose the extra free Kava out of a few options.
On a side note. Just mixed my free sample baggie up with a small cup of orange juice like 2 min ago and downed it. Already feel something starting to happen up in my brain. It tasted like how fresh mud smells after a rain shower. Not bad or gagging, but too earthy.
05-05-2005, 06:01 PM
Originally Posted by poison
Until you've tried it, your opinion is worthless on this. Not defending Ethnobotanticals customer service, but their product is topnotch. I'm sure your Kava is good, but so is this stuff.
05-05-2005, 06:26 PM
Maybe, if you can get it. Plus, Ethnobotanicals is extract, right?
Fact: whole root > extract
I've never tried THEIR extract, but I've had high quality extracts before, and they don't compare to the whole root.
Sorry, I luvs me the kava! Anyway, I hope someone here tries it and gives some feedback besides mine...
05-05-2005, 09:20 PM
Yeah the extract is crappy. I got the iamshaman.com's 84% extract gel caps and swallowed 4 and it did nothing (directions are to take 2), so I put 4 in my mouth and started to chew.. they tasted horrible.. alot worse than just kava root, which isn't too bad, just bitter.
I shouldn't have taken Kava today because I had a cold coming on. I think the cold and Kava jacked me up.. I got a nasty headache at work, but 2 extra strength tylennol's fixed it pretty fast. I drank the sample size which is probably like a teaspoon or something with OJ and it made me feel funny.
So far my best experience with Kava has been opening up the 30% capsules in my mouth, letting it sit under my tongue for about 60 sec, while swallowing the saliva, then downing it all. I feel super relaxed and every part of my body is relaxed. Almost to the point of a mild tingle here and there. Like you can just "rest" your brain and it feels damn good.
05-06-2005, 10:16 PM
Originally Posted by Sir Foxx
I Got the kava in this afternoon. Tonight, on an empty stomach, I took roughly .5gm of the paste stuffed inside a gelcap (filled 1/2 of gelcap). I remembered reading that people had taken lecithin with kava, so I took 2 gms of lecithin and 2 gms of fish oil with the kava.
I started feeling the effects in about 30 minutes, with full effects kicking in around an hour. Very relaxing and euphoric. I'm also feeling more social. It's exactly what I was looking for - a good substitute for 3 or 4 drinks. It actually surpassed my expectations some; the relaxation/anti-anxiety doesn't surprise me, but the pleasant euphoric feelings took me off guard. I'm very happy with the kava, now I just need to find a better supplier than ethnobotanicals.
05-06-2005, 11:30 PM
05-06-2005, 11:59 PM
Intv - did you chew the cap of Kava? Someone previously said helped...I've taken 350 mg and haven't felt a thing.
Originally Posted by intv
05-07-2005, 11:11 AM
Yeah, I checked them out, great prices, and you said they had great CS, so I'll probably try them next time.Originally Posted by darius
Well, the extract is a sticky, pungent paste in a baggy. I capped it so that I could just swallow it. I did taste it though, earthy, but not bad. The numbness is pretty powerful. This was about 500mg, and if extract in general isn't supposed to be good, this stuff is an exception. Where did you get your kava, Elizzard?Originally Posted by Elizzard
05-07-2005, 11:34 AM
05-07-2005, 11:56 AM
05-07-2005, 12:41 PM
The extract does not contain the whole plant with all the additional protective properties. The ONLY negative side effect ever reported in Fiji to kava consumption is a scaly skin condition, but only at very high prolonged use, and it goes away with cessation of use.
So why did Europeans experience liver failure?
Go back and read the links I provided. Basically, they used 1) a very high potency extract, and 2) an extract from the leaves and stems (parts traditionally thrown away by Fijian natives - apparently they have known for a couple thousand years that those parts are dangerous.)
Hey, do what you like, but understand what you are doing. Make sure it is at least a root-only extract, with no leaves or stems...
05-07-2005, 12:45 PM
Powdered root? I use 1-2 HEAPING tablespoons. There is instantised powder, which you can mix and drink, and there is a more course powder, which I am using now, which you have to put in a cloth, immerse in water, and massage the powder in the water until water poured through it runs clear.Originally Posted by bige211
I buy a half lb for $10 at a local Fijian Market. Lucky me!
05-07-2005, 05:59 PM
Originally Posted by poison
The ethnobotanicals paste is supposed to be root-only. Looks like a similar paste can be purchased at iamshaman: http://www.iamshaman.com/eshop/10Exp...ctCode=KKP-HOZ
Elizzard, did you get the Kanna? Looks like that's what Darius was referencing earlier in the thread. I don't know much about Kanna (sceletium), but it is different than kava.
05-07-2005, 07:58 PM
I find kava to have a tangible effect.75-150MG of kavalactones has a nice relaxing feel to it.Havent tried to many different brands,but I was very satisfied with olympian labs standardized extract.Ill have to try out some of these different sites I see in this thread.Im wondering though,why does it have the tongue numbing effect?
05-08-2005, 01:03 AM
I have tried both the Kanna and Kava, and have reported my experiences with them both in this thread. Kanna for me = anxiety killer, very light noticible buzz at 700mg. Kava, only took 3-4 of the lower % capsules to get a feel out of it. Felt very relaxed and calm, tingly too. All purchased from iamshaman.Originally Posted by intv
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