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    So is phenogen used to maintain lbm while dieting, like an anti-catabolic supp, or is it just for fat loss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki
    Phenogen:

    Supplement Facts:
    Serving Size: 2 Capsules
    Servings Per Container: 90


    Amount Per Serving:

    Salvia Miltiorrhiza (40% tanshinones) 500mg
    SesaThin Powder (40% sesamin) 500mg
    Guanidinopropionic Acid 500mg

    Other Ingredients:
    Microcrystalline cellulose. Directions: For those with a significant amount of bodyfat (above 15% for men and 25% for women) or those who store fat quite easily, use 2 capsules three times per day in conjuction with a reduced calorie diet (preferably a reduced carbohydrate diet).
    That should really go up on the site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nate Dawg
    So is phenogen used to maintain lbm while dieting, like an anti-catabolic supp, or is it just for fat loss?
    It is a fat loss/anti fat gain supplement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone
    That should really go up on the site.
    It's being taken care of.


    So is phenogen used to maintain lbm while dieting, like an anti-catabolic supp, or is it just for fat loss?
    As Derek said, it is a repartitioner of calories (particularly glucose) that improves carbohydrate tolerance and accelerates fat loss on a diet, and reduces fat gain on a mass phase by distributing more ingested calories (and again glucose) to muscle, and preventing fat storage & triglyceride formation.
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    its much more than a repartitioner, IMO
    its (main use for me) a product that massages your brain not to raise its resistance to leptin or maybe even repairs it while you overeat or eat regularly and an endo/overweight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by judge-mental
    its much more than a repartitioner, IMO
    its (main use for me) a product that massages your brain not to raise its resistance to leptin or maybe even repairs it while you overeat or eat regularly and an endo/overweight.
    Perchance you are mistaking Phenogen for Leptigen Rebirth??
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    .... I have used phenogen for 8 weeks and read the write up and the references and did some research on my own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by judge-mental
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    PHENOGEN - about the smartest supplement anyone ever put on the ****ing market. way over everybody's head...... too bad nobody gets it :-(
    The entire LeptiGen line pretty much fits this as well.

    I've definitely learned a great deal the last 2 years on the need to dummy and bro-proof supplements.
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    X factor data is coming in and looking good. It's going to be on my "to try" list soon.
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