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Has anyone tried this supplement? If so, did you get any bloods done. I've read that there are only certain types of Tongkat Ali that is effective and it's the one from Indonesia. Thanks in advance.
There is many Quassinoids,alkaloids etc in TA but most tested quassinoids are 13α,21-Dihydroeurycomanone and Eurycomanone and Canthin-6-one metabolites such as 9-hydroxycanthin-6-one. Studies are showing test boosting,SERM and enhance male fertility properties (in patients).Has anyone tried this supplement? If so, did you get any bloods done. I've read that there are only certain types of Tongkat Ali that is effective and it's the one from Indonesia. Thanks in advance.
Thanks Danes. Can you PM me with some brands that you know have been third party tested, or a site to check for that info? Thank you sir!There is many Quassinoids,alkaloids etc in TA but most tested quassinoids are 13α,21-Dihydroeurycomanone and Eurycomanone and Canthin-6-one metabolites such as 9-hydroxycanthin-6-one. Studies are showing test boosting,SERM and enhance male fertility properties (in patients).
So which one to choose?
Personaly I have seen COA from one which I am very pleased with (full of 13α,21-Dihydroeurycomanone and Eurycomanone).
But you cant actually trust 100% to anyone . Thats why 3rd party testing is VERY important!
"PM's have been disabled for maintenance. They will return shortly."Thanks Danes. Can you PM me with some brands that you know have been third party tested, or a site to check for that info? Thank you sir!
believe me, "real" TA is one of the best test boosters with other good functionsa friend of mine says he used it after PCT and said he felt it helped. havent used it myself on its own yet though.
I've read on pubmed that it's had successful test cases but there is a pissing contest between Indonesia and Malaysia's indigenous sources of TA so it's hard to tell. I've gone to the TA review site which lists either "dubious source" or legit for certain retailers but I can't find many third party testing information for certain retailers. Supplementation is such a mystery trying to find legit retailers and it drives me crazy.believe me, "real" TA is one of the best test boosters with other good functions
Welcome to the world of supplements buddy!I've read on pubmed that it's had successful test cases but there is a pissing contest between Indonesia and Malaysia's indigenous sources of TA so it's hard to tell. I've gone to the TA review site which lists either "dubious source" or legit for certain retailers but I can't find many third party testing information for certain retailers. Supplementation is such a mystery trying to find legit retailers and it drives me crazy.
Which product did you use? Theyve got two :100:1 and 200:1Some of the better tongkat I've had has been from barlowes herbal elixirs. However their fenugreek is by far the strongest fenugreek I've ever tried in my life I **** you not
Danes could you pm me your sources as well?Thanks Danes. Can you PM me with some brands that you know have been third party tested, or a site to check for that info? Thank you sir!
There is other mechanism involed with TA which is supporting T increase, SERM and AI properties . I will dig up some studies.TA is said to activate CYP17, thus increasing the conversion of pregnenolone to DHEA. Unfortunately I don't have any scientific data regarding this, if such even exists. IF so, this should be a killer with pregnenolone, DAA and some AI (all bases covered )
Thanks for the answer Danes. Now that I started this.. do you think that licorice would benefit this stack since it is said to spare pregnenolone from turning into corticosteroids by prolonging the half-life of cortisol?There is other mechanism involed with TA which is supporting T increase, SERM and AI properties . I will dig up some studies.
You are taking about:
"Eurycoma Longifolia for increasing testosterone levels is traced to the eurypeptide content, which is claimed to increase the activity of the CYP17 (17 α-hyroxylase/17,20 lyase) enzyme in the testes, which increases the conversion rate of pregnenoline precursors intoDehydroepiandrosterone*and subsequent androgens.
These claims are traced back to a university dissertation by Ali and Saad (1993) entitled 'Biochemical effect of Eurycoma Longifolia Jack on the sexual behavior, fertility, sex hormone and glycolysis' from the University of Malaya"
Personaly, I am not fan of DAA at all
I dont think it would be nessesary at allThanks for the answer Danes. Now that I started this.. do you think that licorice would benefit this stack since it is said to spare pregnenolone from turning into corticosteroids by prolonging the half-life of cortisol?
He Dane can you also PM me the 3 party tested TA?"PM's have been disabled for maintenance. They will return shortly."
Will do when it is normal again
Likewise please.Danes could you pm me your sources as well?
Thanks
Dane can you PM me all the info too, thanks so much"PM's have been disabled for maintenance. They will return shortly."
Will do when it is normal again
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