- 03-28-2005, 12:22 PM
- 03-31-2005, 02:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anarchy939
- 04-01-2005, 07:01 AM
Dicana is a weaker form of tricana [Trimax] (1 molecule missing hence di- instead of tri-).
I've heard from a couple of people that it worked ok, not as effective as Trimax; but also did not shut down the thyroid. Can be taken in a 6-8 week cycle.
04-01-2005, 11:01 AM
I am currently on week 2 and haven't noticed much yet.. although I do **** like 4-5 times a day, and its usually runny.. I have lost about 4lbs so far, but I am unsure as to whether dicana played any role in this or not..
04-01-2005, 04:19 PM
Cool, now that we know how much you **** and the consistancy, can you tell us how much you piss and what shade of yellow it is?. Also can you describe in detail how you wipe your ass?Originally Posted by Anarchy939
04-01-2005, 04:47 PM
my bad.. guess I got a little carried away..Originally Posted by T-Bone
05-12-2005, 10:01 PM
05-12-2005, 11:42 PM
I lost ~10lbs altogether in the end. Got bloodwork done 2x since I came off 4 weeks ago, Thyroid values are still whacked 4+weeks after discontinuation running LX, L-Tyrosine, SAN blaze and increasing cals. Total T3 is .66ng/ml (.88-2.00ng/ml) although at this point my free T3, FT4, and TSH are fine (well, "withing range").Originally Posted by primal1
TSH 1 week after disconinutation: 3.46
TSH 4 weeks after discontinuation: 2.12
FT4 1 week PCT: .96 (1-1.4)
FT4 4 weeks PCT: 1.16 (1-1.4)
FT3 1 week PCT: 2.1 (2.3-6.0)
FT3 4 weeks PCT: 2.6 (2.3-6.0)
hope this helped.
05-12-2005, 11:53 PM
I'm using Dicana also.. Oddly enough, I'm going down in bf%, yet I still weigh 205.. I like this stuff..
05-13-2005, 12:13 AM
it leaned me out real fast once I upped it to 2 caps/day. I actually gained strength on lifts too and my muscles looked full, and not flat as Trimax made me look when I tried that. good stuff... (if your willing to deal with some thyroid rebound, although much less than tmax)
05-13-2005, 11:06 AM
No, don't worry about it. He's an ass like that to me too.Originally Posted by Anarchy939
05-13-2005, 12:25 PM
So your saying you actually gained strength? Sorry, I know you posted it, but I just want to double check and clarify that you actually didnt lose any muscle mass...Originally Posted by Anarchy939
05-13-2005, 04:09 PM
I did gain strength, but only in certain areas. I should have mentioned that some lifts did go down, but only by 5-10lbs or so, and these were compound lifts (squats, deads, etc)
I gained strength on bb curls and a few isos.
05-13-2005, 08:29 PM
I didn't lose any muscle, strength is about the same if not a tad better.. I take 3 caps ED..
05-13-2005, 09:42 PM
I'm assuming no AAS? How long have you been "on" dicana?Originally Posted by bigpetefox
05-14-2005, 07:30 PM
Only been a couple weeks, week 3 this coming monday.. On nothing but a solid diet/training plan..Originally Posted by Enigma76
05-15-2005, 12:29 AM
I did a search on diacana and Diiodothyroacetic acid isomers also produce thyroid (T3)anti bodies which I'm not too sure about.
05-15-2005, 09:02 AM
Dicana is the cousin of tiratricol. It is more of a T2 dirivitive. Yes, it does impact the thyroid, despite claims made by thermolife, but it is not nearly as harsh as trimax in terms of shutdown. While blood tests showed somewhat of a sluggish thyroid, I have yet to gain back any of the fat lost.
That being said, I definately will include this in future cutting stacks.
05-15-2005, 01:05 PM
T3 antibodies? That doesn't sound very good.Originally Posted by mb27
05-16-2005, 09:16 AM
Yes, I would like to hear more on this subject.....Originally Posted by TheCrownedOne
08-14-2005, 12:08 AM
So what's up? Anymore about this? The whole antibody thing sounds shady.. and The only thyroid manipulation I've done (if you can call it that) is running high doses of guggul from time to time.Originally Posted by Max32
I have a bottle of Dicana in the wait, for an upcoming cut, after PCT... wondering if I should mess with it or not.
08-17-2005, 09:03 AM
There's some good feedback on it in other threads. Just like they say here : not as effective as Trimax, but not as harsh on the thyroid. I too have a bottle coming, I can't wait to get started on my body recomp cycle. Personally, I also ordered thyroid-boosting supps for after my dicana just to be sure it comes back quick and strong. Don't want none of that low-thyroid around here. Some say it's unnecessary with Dicana but should be done with Trimax. I say better safe than sorry.
But hey these guys liked it. Tell us about your final results, Pete?
08-17-2005, 09:17 AM
I stacked it with Jet Fuel, 3 caps a day.. I was eating abit above maintenance, and I lost a good 1-1.5" on my waist.. Made me alittle warm almost like UA did, I'd sweat more when lifting.. If I use it again, I'll run 2 bottles alone to see how that differs..
08-17-2005, 09:21 AM
I am about to finish a bottle myself. Results were similar to Pete's, heavy sweating during lifting/cardio and overall warmer feelings at night (this could also be attributed to other hormones though). Currently my bfat and waist are as small as they have ever been
I too have a strong TSH pct protocol plan in action.
08-17-2005, 09:27 AM
Max32 you ran it with other things? Do you have a log/thread regarding that cycle? What did you use it with and what were the calories like?
08-17-2005, 09:53 AM
Never really kept much in the way of a detailed log, but I had some ALRI prods in there like prostanazol, and will be using Hotter and Retain pct. I do not count calories and follow a carb cycling diet that basically is like this:Originally Posted by ss01
A: High carb day
B: Low carb day
Wks 1-2: AABAABAABetc...
Wks 3-5: ABBABBABBetc...
Wks 6-8: ABBBABBBetc....
I eat about 8 meals throughout the day, and sip on a whey/mmilk shake throughout the night. My standard meal is chicken/fish + almonds + raw spinach or broccoli as a low carb meal. My typical carbs consist of oats, brown rice, yams, and vitargo centered around my workouts. Probably averaging around 350-400 grams protein a day.
08-17-2005, 11:36 AM
I'm on week 3, look leaner but scale hasn't moved a bit.
I am feeling this more than Trimax.
08-17-2005, 11:41 AM
I started on Dicana weighing 207, week 3 I was thinking the same thing, yet I only dropped to 203..Originally Posted by WhutEvr
08-17-2005, 12:07 PM
What does your plan look like exactly ?Originally Posted by Max32
08-17-2005, 12:42 PM
It will incorporate ALRi Retain, USP camphibolic (for forskolin content), and gugglesterones. I will also use melting point to (hopefully) prevent any fat rebound.Originally Posted by -2z-
08-18-2005, 07:05 AM
How long do you think it takes the thyroid to fully recover from this?
I'm guessing not quite as long as Trimax, maybe ?
08-18-2005, 08:33 AM
I agree, should be a shorter period of time. Hell, I am just looking forward to the lack of lethargy. I also have a great deal of confidence in Retain from ALRI to help out with any rebound.
08-18-2005, 12:13 PM
As long as the thyroid bounces back fairly quickly I may use this during my last few weeks getting below 9-10%. Or maybe something else...haven't decided yet.
09-08-2005, 11:07 PM
Anyone have any thoughts on using Dicana and EC together? I have a bottle of Diacana and don't know if I should wait to use it in a lean mass cycle like MOHN/Prostan/Dicana or if I should just cut with it and the EC. I will probably get some Lean Xtreme and Retain for PCT no matter how I use it. Any thoughts?
09-08-2005, 11:25 PM
I used Dicana with EC, and man was that a kick-ass stack! I lost body fat like crazy. Try it out and keep us postedOriginally Posted by Dungeon1
09-09-2005, 01:34 PM
Right now I'm in the early stages of a body recomp cycle which includes Dicana along with Emax and Prostanozol. Max32 seems to have liked the combo of Prostanozol with Dicana and interestingly my 4 weeks of the Prostanozol coincides with the Dicana. I will add ECA to that, since you guys feel it's such a good idea. My log thread is here if anyone's interested: Body recomp: E...Max LMG + Prostanozol + Dicana
Dungeon1, post a link to your log in this thread, if you keep one? I would really like to check out on your results... Anarchy939, do you have a log somewhere? Thanks
09-09-2005, 02:03 PM
Used Dicana with Oranstan-E (prostan) for two weeks before honeymoon coming off a 4 week emax cycle. Got leaner lost 5 lbs mostly fat, and when i took dicana with prostan i got an incredible pump for the upcoming workout. Caution though i used twice the dosag for week and half because i felt nothing. Def not as strong as trimax !!! and my metabolism has kicked in with no weight gain pct being ltyrosine 1 gm a day. Definately will run with an eca stack when i am cutting in jan.
09-09-2005, 02:17 PM
OK I have a question. I'm 225 or so. Will add Dicana in my stack from Saturday september 17, for 4 weeks. Because of the way my cycle is scheduled I'd have a few Dicana left when I begin PCT. I'm thinking of doing 4 caps a day for approximately one week. Should I keep this for the last week of Dicana when it's only stacked with Prostanozol or do I do them in the middle of my dicana use, while I'm on both emax and prostanozol? Which will give me the greater benefit?
09-09-2005, 03:42 PM
I have decided to run the Dicana at a later time, probably with the MOHN/Prostan because I am currently taking sesamin and the two compete against eachother. The other option which I was mentioned by Max32 was to take the Dicana in the AM and the full days Sesamin at night, but I think I will just wait which will give me a better idea of what works and how well.
09-09-2005, 04:46 PM
I hear sesamin is especially good when combined with CLA.
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