NMDA or Daa?

[bb333]

which do you prefer?

 

[Afi140]

which do you prefer?

daa. Not sure about safety of nmda. I Like testfoce 2 and pure test for just some daa capsules.

http://www.islandsupplements.com/finaflex-pure-test.html

 

[wray98]

DAA .... but i prefer to use Prolensis Bulbine ... we use it in our Noxitest formula.

 

[mw1]

http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/serious-nutrition-solutions/daa-180-capsules.html
DAA^^^^

 

[wasme]

Personally, I prefer regular DAA. FINAFLEX Pure Test is 100% HPLC Verified D-Aspartic Acid and at a very reasonable price:

http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/redefine-nutrition/finaflex-pure-test-120-caps.html

 

[Grayson]

NA-DAA. SNS makes the best shtuff

Btw, screw the 3g a day dosage. I've found 6 (split 3g morning and evening to be optimal). Dose it with l-dopa and maybe some divanil if you're feeling lucky.

 

[Aleksandar37]

DAA

 

[haiz69]

DAA as well for me. With P5P/L-Dopa + some form of estrogen control if running for a decent amount of time.

 

[Spaniard]

Holy linked thread hahaha!

I would agree with the others in here. Sodium D Aspartate (SNS DAA) has studies showing it's efficacy and safety whereas NMDA doesn't. That doesn't mean it doesn't work as anecdotally a lot of people like it.

 

[abformulations]

NDMA for me. Tried daa to many times and got nothing.

Very underrated and works very good. It's been a while. Might have to grab me a bottle soon lol

http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/iforce-intimidate-30-caps.html

 

[AaronJP1]

DAA as well for me. With P5P/L-Dopa + some form of estrogen control if running for a decent amount of time.

No tired or drowsy feeling from the l-dopa?

Holy linked thread hahaha! I would agree with the others in here. Sodium D Aspartate (SNS DAA) has studies showing it's efficacy and safety whereas NMDA doesn't. That doesn't mean it doesn't work as anecdotally a lot of people like it.

NDMA for me. Tried daa to many times and got nothing. Very underrated and works very good. It's been a while. Might have to grab me a bottle soon lol http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/iforce-intimidate-30-caps.html

What's supposed to be the biggest benefit of the N Methyl attachment? More potent?
I've seen complaints on DAA in regards to GI distress & heighten anxiety.

 

[Young Gotti]

NMDA....the sleep benefits alone do more for me than DAA does, I pretty much only recommend DAA for pct but it's not effective enough to notice any gym results

 

[kissdadookie]

D-Pol

 

[haiz69]

No tired or drowsy feeling from the l-dopa?

Definitely not for me. I have always noticed the opposite.

 

[T-Bone]

NMDA I thought was debunked as useless in another thread on here. I used it and got nothing from it. Well not nothing, my libido dropped to almost non existent.

 

[Mission1]

NMDA....the sleep benefits alone do more for me than DAA does, I pretty much only recommend DAA for pct but it's not effective enough to notice any gym results

I beg the differ there, NMDA gave me the opposite. Couldn't sleep no matter what time I took it ..Maybe I'm just a rare breed.

 

[jaces]

10g Daa split in to almost even doses works good for a oral pct

 

[Kickstart7]

I wouldn't go more than 3g of DAA a day. Anymore is overkill

 

[abformulations]

10g Daa split in to almost even doses works good for a oral pct

This is a lot

 

[T-Bone]

I've been seeing people post how they have been taking enormous amounts of DAA. One guy I think said he takes 15 grams per day. I couldn't imagine the pooping.....Seriously I would have to wear a diaper.

 

[AaronJP1]

I've been seeing people post how they have been taking enormous amounts of DAA. One guy I think said he takes 15 grams per day. I couldn't imagine the pooping.....Seriously I would have to wear a diaper.

:lol:

 

[jaces]

I weigh around 280 pounds so ,,,,

 

[Grayson]

I've been seeing people post how they have been taking enormous amounts of DAA. One guy I think said he takes 15 grams per day. I couldn't imagine the pooping.....Seriously I would have to wear a diaper.

Even na-daa tears you up?

 

[xhrr]

I wouldn't go more than 3g of DAA a day. Anymore is overkill

6 was noticeably better than 3 for me

 

[Grayson]

6 was noticeably better than 3 for me

Agreed. I like 6 split and pm with 500mg l-dopa and 2 gram agmatine.

No noticeable body comp changes, but overall mood is greatly enhanced and agmatine is awesome for blood sugar/insulin.

 

[T-Bone]

I weigh around 280 pounds so ,,,,

With the majority of supplements dosages aren't based on body weight. The only supplement company that has a select few products where dosages are based on body weight is Applied Nutriceuticals. Even with that company it is only a few select supplements that were designed/formulated to be dosed dependent on body weight of the user.

 

[Spaniard]

I wouldn't go more than 3g of DAA a day. Anymore is overkill

6 g DAA seems to help with memory formation

 

[T-Bone]

6 g DAA seems to help with mammary formation

Lmao!. Possibly!

 

[xhrr]

Agreed. I like 6 split and pm with 500mg l-dopa and 2 gram agmatine. No noticeable body comp changes, but overall mood is greatly enhanced and agmatine is awesome for blood sugar/insulin.

I'll have to try it with l dopa and agmatine. Never got much in terms of body comp either but 6 made me feel pretty damn good and my gf sore. 3 was hardly noticeable.

I really only see it as much use during pct or if you want to bang everything that walks. Seems to have the most use in a hypogonadal state aka after the cessation of androgens.

 

[jaces]

With the majority of supplements dosages aren't based on body weight. The only supplement company that has a select few products where dosages are based on body weight is Applied Nutriceuticals. Even with that company it is only a few select supplements that were designed/formulated to be dosed dependent on body weight of the user.

Yeah most products , but at the university we use bodyweight dependent studies so I rather use bodyweight ,,,

 

[Young Gotti]

didn't someone post or talk about it on a podcast, maybe layne norton...that over 3g's is good for nootropic purposes but also toxic...i don't remember where i heard it, also never looked into it any further since i rarly use daa myself

 

[Spaniard]

didn't someone post or talk about it on a podcast, maybe layne norton...that over 3g's is good for nootropic purposes but also toxic...i don't remember where i heard it, also never looked into it any further since i rarly use daa myself

You're talking about excitoxicity, which was a concern with DAA in general initially and this was at any dose. From all the discussion and preliminary data on it, DAA has a safe a relatively safe profile. However, IIRC DAA did have a study showing dose dependent excitoxicity, which is probably what you're thinking of. The study was done in rats from what I can recall

Here's the thing, both DAA and NMDA have activity at the NMDA receptor where the excitoxicity was of initial concern. I personally generally recommend DAA over NMDA because it has data showing efficacy and safety, whereas with NMDA I have yet to see the same.

 

[Grayson]

You're talking about excitoxicity, which was a concern with DAA in general initially and this was at any dose. From all the discussion and preliminary data on it, DAA has a safe a relatively safe profile. However, IIRC DAA did have a study showing dose dependent excitoxicity, which is probably what you're thinking of. The study was done in rats from what I can recall

Here's the thing, both DAA and NMDA have activity at the NMDA receptor where the excitoxicity was of initial concern. I personally generally recommend DAA over NMDA because it has data showing efficacy and safety, whereas with NMDA I have yet to see the same.

NMDA has been proven to not work.

 

[Aleksandar37]

didn't someone post or talk about it on a podcast, maybe layne norton...that over 3g's is good for nootropic purposes but also toxic...i don't remember where i heard it, also never looked into it any further since i rarly use daa myself

here we go...

 

[Young Gotti]

here we go...

we are we going

 

[T-Bone]

NMDA has been proven to not work.

That's what I thought.

 

[T-Bone]

Bring it!...

Oh, It's already been Brought!

Ha ha, funny!

 

[mr.cooper69]

NMDA has been proven to not work.

This. And did you see the dose that didn't work? 100x higher than the 30mg that most supplements use

 

[SwolenONE]

DAA and Sarcosine over NMDA

 

[Grayson]

This. And did you see the dose that didn't work? 100x higher than the 30mg that most supplements use

I'll have to look for the study, but I remember they used NMDA by muscle warfare or some bs company like that.

It could very well have been that the actual product was bunk and therefore we should give NMDA another chance.

Anecdotally, ill say that I've tried both intimidate srt and mass fx black and none of them have come close to na-daa.

 

[jaces]

This. And did you see the dose that didn't work? 100x higher than the 30mg that most supplements use

I think most suplements dont work in the dosages they put in a ''blend'',,, like my preworkout has 200mg of cafein and most studys I have read show a dose of 600mg is neded for a boost in the gym,,

 

[bb333]

I think most suplements dont work in the dosages they put in a ''blend'',,, like my preworkout has 200mg of cafein and most studys I have read show a dose of 600mg is neded for a boost in the gym,,

I, for example,
that I don't drink coffee, never
Caffeine anhydrous 200 mg, I feel very well
The strength and concentration increases a lot.
To 600 mg, maybe, I would have an attack of tachycardia!
So, everything is subjective, especially with those compounds that should affect the nervous system.

 

[jaces]

I, for example,
that I don't drink coffee, never
Caffeine anhydrous 200 mg, I feel very well
The strength and concentration increases a lot.
To 600 mg, maybe, I would have an attack of tachycardia!
So, everything is subjective, especially with those compounds that should affect the nervous system.

I agree , I thnk it varies frm person to person

 

[throneof]

I think most suplements dont work in the dosages they put in a ''blend'',,, like my preworkout has 200mg of cafein and most studys I have read show a dose of 600mg is neded for a boost in the gym,,

600 mg caffeine is absurd. I'm sure some folks can go that high, but they're stimmed out and ultra tolerant. 100-150 mg is all I need to get my system engaged. I can tolerate 200, but anything over that makes me feel horrible.

 

[zcol94]

I think most suplements dont work in the dosages they put in a ''blend'',,, like my preworkout has 200mg of cafein and most studys I have read show a dose of 600mg is neded for a boost in the gym,,

I think the study showed that 600 was the max effective dose, not that less wouldn't work but that 600 was better

 

[jaces]

I think the study showed that 600 was the max effective dose, not that less wouldn't work but that 600 was better

The. Study says that 600 is optimal , but I would say it depends on the person

 

[Swolljaboi]

I accidentally put 400mg in my afternoon shake yesterday instead of 200. Felt like I was on straight up methamphetamines.

 

[jaces]

I think the study showed that 600 was the max effective dose, not that less wouldn't work but that 600 was better

The. Study says that 600 is optimal , but I would say it depends on the person

 

[jaces]

I just go that high on leg day ,,,

 

[zcol94]

Yes, if I remember correctly it was based on mg per lb, I do not remember the ratio though