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Considering ICE is ~10 bucks cheaper, which would you buy?
crystal light. Just sprinkle a tad in w/all things powder.Is $10 in savings worth mixing the products together and then having a kilo of ass-tasting powder? Otherwise, just get whichever is the cheaper of the two, both are great products.
I mixed up 10 servings of the concoction yesterday and opened 3 100mg B6 caps into it for approx. 30mg per serving. I think that is more than necessary, but I tend to err on the side of too much (except w/ PHs and alcohol).Beowulf--you and I drink the same concoction during w/o. I actually use that formula pre- and during. That is a great mix IMO. How many mgs of B-6 do you add? That's one thing I haven't yet included, although I have the powder.
I just go with bulk CM. It is hard to say exactly what is working, but I have had incredible endurance and recovery doing my depletion workouts and cardio during my UD 2.0 cycles. During the workout, I only take in BCAA and CM. I have a feeling the CM is working, but I didn't notice anything until a few weeks of taking it. Bodyoctane is way too expensive and extend is underdosed. By the bulk and shoot for 3-4g pre and during your workouts.I tried Bodyoctane awhile ago, and didn't really feel that Citrulline Malate gave me much in the way of noticable benefits, so in this case the extra cost for a low dose of Citrulline probably isn't warranted.
I just go with bulk CM. It is hard to say exactly what is working, but I have had incredible endurance and recovery doing my depletion workouts and cardio during my UD 2.0 cycles. During the workout, I only take in BCAA and CM. I have a feeling the CM is working, but I didn't notice anything until a few weeks of taking it. Bodyoctane is way too expensive and extend is underdosed. By the bulk and shoot for 3-4g pre and during your workouts.
I have to say that BCAA didn nothign to me while EAA during workout really seem to help my endurance.Is there anyone who sells bulk EAA's? BSL used too.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=431025Layne, Derek, and a bunch of other randoms, including myself, are megadosing Xtend/ICE/BCAA powder over intthe supplement section of bb.com, i know there's a lot of crap to weed through over there, but it could be interesting, there's already been quite a bit of info posted on leucine's anabolic properties, and Layne has already reported what he claims as amazing gains from only 2.5 weeks of megadosing, might be worth checking out if you're interested in doing this
Please do, thanks bro.I am collecting the results from all those participating and can post them here if you guys would like.
You can dilute it by adding water if you would like. I doubt the vin/lemon juice pH is detrimental at all.*Please do, thanks bro.
BTW, I've started using apple cider vinegar and lemon juice with my high carb meals during my dcurrent bulk. It burns my throat a bit. Could the vin/lemon juice concoction have some whacky pH that could be detrimental??? I haven't studied science in a long time.
there will be shortlyIs there anyone who sells bulk EAA's? BSL used too.
not sure if it would be detrimental but it definately has a 'whacky' pH.Please do, thanks bro.
BTW, I've started using apple cider vinegar and lemon juice with my high carb meals during my dcurrent bulk. It burns my throat a bit. Could the vin/lemon juice concoction have some whacky pH that could be detrimental??? I haven't studied science in a long time.
Thanks, I'm glad to see that we're all on the same page when it comes to using proper scientific terminology. I can't stand these heathens that don't know how to express physical or chemical properties with proper terminology:frustratenot sure if it would be detrimental but it definately has a 'whacky' pH.
Did you gain any bone and testicle mass a la Rebound XT:wave:?I am taking 50 grams of BCAA a day and in the first week, I lost 1.25 lbs of fat and gained 3.75 lbs of lean mass
Sadly, my testicles are back at their normal size since discontinuing Rebound XT...Did you gain any bone and testicle mass a la Rebound XT:wave:?
I've only used Leptigen while cutting. The first time was during my review on the Avant website. At that time, fat loss had stalled and I was losing lean mass. When I added Leptigen, I started losing fat again and gained a little lean mass. Last time I used Leptigen (BASIC) while cutting I was doing the UD2 diet. I was stack Leptigen Basic + BCAA. I lost 7.5 pounds of fat and gained 2.5 pounds of lean mass in 4 weeks.I have question about hyperdosing bcaa , wouldnt it be almost the same idea as leptigen by avant labs.
and i noticed beast that you used leptigen for a contest and was wondering if your superdosing experiment is giving similar results
Since Phenogen works by "wasting" ATP and CM would make creating ATP more efficient, I can see a conflict. Spook the product's designer does not recommend the combo, but I have seen others that say it is fine. I don't think CM would be much of a concern compared to Creatine though.What do you think of the reccommendation against using Phenogen with CM?
LOL, thanks buddy.Hey Derek,
Welcome to our boards, where we guess bone mass and testicle weight!
Sorry dude, welcome for real! :trout:
The problem with just taking Leucine is you could create an amino acid imbalance. Valine and Isoleucine also have some nice properties which will enhance the overall effect.Many seem to believe that most of the great results of BCAA's is the resuslt of the Leucine, what would you think of jsut mega dosing Lucine?
Mike you are a man after my own heart! :rofl: Get some of the BSL flavoring in, I hear they are good.....and what is the culprit for the bad taste?You can build your own xtend in raw materials for around 15-20 bucks less. Problem is, taste like ASS.
Yes but not everyone wants to muck around with their endocrine system oke:i dont know if high dose BCAA is worth the money, when coasts more than my AAS cycle.
When I cut I will take some pics in the Bulk Nutrition beanie I got at the Arnold for you :cheers:Derek, need to get rid of that ugly ass hat in your photo
http://www.soapcrafters.com/soap_crafting_supplies/1090Hey newb, could you please explain what is PET?
I need to get some Scivation beanies done.When I cut I will take some pics in the Bulk Nutrition beanie I got at the Arnold for you :cheers:
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