- 08-08-2014, 01:05 PM
- 08-08-2014, 02:01 PM
08-08-2014, 09:17 PM
Barlowe's has a "50:1" extract. Don't know about the percentage.
I've had fulfillment issues with Badmonkey. Don't have a lot of confidence in them.
08-11-2014, 10:34 AM
Yeah me too the ironic thing with badmonkey is that they seem to have quality products it's just their fulfillment and customer service is a complete and utter failure. And they seem to have a bigger herbal selection than any other bulk powder provider that I know of.
08-11-2014, 04:15 PM
Hmmm. I would like to see LG bring back their osthole product.
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08-12-2014, 02:34 PM
08-12-2014, 08:04 PM
I've had Badmonkey orders that worked just fine. But I've also had two orders that didn't. I don't think they're trying to cheat me, but they'll sell you stuff they don't have in stock. So it takes a month to get it. I ordered nettle root and avena sativa on 7/16, and received the nettle within a week. But no sign of the avena sativa. So I called, and was told they were getting avena sativa in the next day and would ship mine then. Well that was 10 days ago. Still no sign.
You can call them, and they'll promise you whatever, and eventually, so far, you get your stuff. But they really don't seem to know what they're doing. I have a feeling they have someone else doing fullfilment for them.
As for the quality of their stuff, I just don't have any way to evaluate that.
08-13-2014, 08:02 PM
08-19-2014, 06:01 PM
Cnidium is herb with an extremely distinct fragrant smell. It reminds me of apples in a way and it makes me nauseous when it goes down so I know for a fact when a cnidium product is legit or bunk.
I got a bottle from barlowe the 50:1 cnidium caps last year. It was extremely potent and the pills made me nauseous but the vascular effect were amazing especially on my weiner. I bought some this year and the powder does not taste as potent but I could tell its cnidium because I can faintly smell and taste the similarities to legit cnidium powders I had in the past.
The only product that had my erection and libido insane besides my order of barlowes stuff last year was beyond a century's 10% powder I got in 2011 and that tasted exactly like the barlowe product. But it seems barlowe's product does not have the same consistency in every batch. And other companies will sell you all kinds of different stuff probably saw dust if they can if you dont know how a herb smells and tastes.
I know know all herbs you maybe able to do this with but cnidium has an extremely potent and distinct taste and the good stuff that I get the vascular effects from ALWAYS MADE ME NAUSEOUS!!
08-19-2014, 09:26 PM
It has a distinct smell and taste which makes me nauseous. And that is the only cnidium that works for me. You got to really know the smell, look, and taste of a herb before you buy. Sometimes retailers don't even know what they are selling and probably dont care.
08-20-2014, 06:26 AM
Update: I just found a Manufacturer through aliexpress that claims their product is a green yellow which is called kelly green. I have looked up kelly green and it matches the powder I got from beyond a century in 2011. I refuse to consume any cnidium 10% osthole that is not kelly green. Believe me I have tried 3-4 products from online retailers that did not work and did not resemble cnidium as I remember it. It is so bad that A cnidium product that claimed to be 35% osthole tasted like cinnamon. This goes to show that if a product or herb doesnt work as it should is probably fake or of the lowest quality. The kelly green cnidium I found costs 100 bucks for a kilo. I will jut pray it has that strong apple smell and aroma if so then I am good to go. I hope I will be able to purchase without a hassle.
08-21-2014, 12:03 AM
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08-23-2014, 12:48 PM
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09-03-2014, 01:01 PM
Looks like the search for 10% osthole is going to be harder than I thought. Cross nutricargo off as a trust worthy source for cnidium or any herb for that matter. the only legit thing I got from them was pollen. Their xanthoparmelia 35% is bunk as well.
I only bought from there because of an amazon buyer review which now I guess is fraudulent. Biomed balance 35% cnidium monnieri osthole is fraudulent stuff. Bad monkey is a known fraud these guys really tried to sell me pink saw dust, luckily I got my money back.
The only supplier that comes close right now is barlowe but his cnidium that I ordered couple months ago is a low potency powder compared to what I bought last year. The powder is brown with a faint smell of cnidium and doesn't even make me nauseous. The china supplier on aliexpress seems to be trying to rip me off I will know for sure tommorrow his description of the color of cnidium is on point which is the greenish -yellow of the fruit extract.
But know it looks like he is trying to ship artemisia annua extract 10:1 claiming that is the declared name and that the color is brown when it clearly states in his description it is a GREEN-YELLOW color and the name is snowparsley and the declared name is Cnidium monnieri.
There is a gold supplier on aliexpress I might try next. Folks it seems that there is no known legit supplier of pure cnidium monnieri extract 10% osthole that is available commercially on the market well at least available to buyers like me. I want cnidium monnieri 10% osthole by itself which no one seems to have.
I only want the fruit extract which is greenish-yellow and has a strong distinct taste and smell. One of the reasons I want it by itself is because I want to see, smell, and taste the powder to make sure it is legit. The nutricargo and biomed balance cnidium smell and taste exactly the same which I know their supplier is selling them bull****.
If anybody knows a legit supplier of cnidium monnieri 10 % osthole and is willing to sell at most 1 kilo for a reasonable price please again hit me up here!
09-03-2014, 03:41 PM
09-04-2014, 03:13 PM
09-04-2014, 03:23 PM
09-16-2014, 01:38 PM
green1990, I left you private mail about a source for this stuff, but got no response. Get back to me.
09-16-2014, 05:33 PM
Hey, this is the owner of Badmonkey Botanicals. One of our customers had alerted us to this thread and thought I should clear the air a bit so here I am.
The Cnidium 10% Osthole product and the Avena Sativa 20:1 have been some of our best selling products. We had priced these products very very competitively and reordered quite a bit before our stocks were dry. It's quite common for the FDA to refuse shipments of herbal extract powders for one reason or another, the most famous is falsely claiming it's a “drug” requiring permit. We finally received it after 3 painful months.
Since then we source and receive our products in a completely different and very innovative way which makes our shipments 98% reliable. In Nov. 2013 we went viral, the business soared 1000% and it did put quite a strain on the customer service. We did have some order delays, the cause of which we've cleared up by now. 99% of our orders now go out same or next day. Try it!
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I know who green1990 is because he's the only person to complain about the Cnidium extract. I personally took that extract myself and still do on a daily basis and know it to do exactly what Cnidium Monnieri does. I don't believe he once said he even tried it. We all know that there is going to be variation in color and smell from batch to batch, but this new green Cnidium does seem a bit better and has that nice "kelly green" color(Thanks green1990).
We would have let green1990 know that because of him we had changed manufacturers to a product that fit his needs, but who really wants to keep a customer who puts in a dispute with your payment processor before contacting you directly about the issue?
What green1990 didn't say is that he had absolutely no complaints(obviously) about the Reishi spore 40% polysaccharide and Jiaogulan 95% gypenosides extracts he purchased in May, which prompted him to make this 2nd purchase in which the in-stock product was sent out the same day and we informed him that we were still waiting on the new cnidium.
If anyone out there has a problem with an encounter with Badmonkey Botanicals please contact us via the site contact information and we'll make it right!
I would offer Peabody and green1990 a free 50g bag of our new Cnidium 10%, and if anyone else would like to try a free sample(cnidium or anything else) please contact me via the contact form or live chat on the site.
BTW: Our highest Cnidium extract is 98% Osthole which is a WHITE powder.
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09-17-2014, 02:03 PM
Thanks for the information and explanation, Jaimye. I've never had a problem with your products, just with fullfillment, and it sounds like you've made changes to get that under control. In the past, Beyond a Century was my go-to place for "bulk" botanicals and supplements, but they are no longer in the packaging business, so it would be great if your company could step in to fill that void, at least on the herbal stuff. I look forward to trying the cnidium, and will report back when I've tested it. I just hope I *don't* get that nausea that green1990 talked about. :-)
09-17-2014, 02:48 PM
What MG is Nausea kicking in at 10% Osthol
Green1990: I am also thinking about buying Cnidium 10% Osthol.
Please tell me - at what MG level of the 10% Osthol are you feeling nausea?
Ex: 400 mg? 600 mg? 1,000 mg?
I have never heard of anyone having nausea while using any dose of Cnidium Monnieri. But I am willing to hear your feedback as to what MG level this kicks in for you
I too have tried the Barlowes Cnidium. I have not experienced nausea with that blend. However I agree with you that it seems to be subpar potency. The Barlowe is certainly not Osthol, and their claim of 50:1 extract is impossible. Sounds like the raw material supplier fed them a line of BS they fell for
09-17-2014, 02:56 PM
09-17-2014, 09:45 PM
The 98% is up now, it's a brand new product. It's listed under "latest"
We did come up on a new batch of Cnidium this last month. As I understand it, everything was last year's batch until then and the manufacturers were selling it off at clearance prices. Ours is currently this year's batch with both the 98% and 10%
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09-18-2014, 12:13 AM
09-18-2014, 04:07 AM
Price of a bottle with 100 capsules is not that more expensive compared to just 50g powder in a bag but it's more convenient when you're on the road.
Would love to hear feedback on this 10% and 98% osthole batches by AM members before I think many others would consider ordering.
09-18-2014, 05:15 PM
green1900 was the first complaint we had over the old product, and if color was his only problem then that issue has been cleared up by now.
We do capsules also. Everything is available hand-capped with no stearates or cellulose, capsules made of natural tree fiber not semisynthetic hpmc. I'll put a capsule option up for you guys. Should be 11.40USD in capsules @ 100x 400mg ea.
800mg doses were enough to induce a considerable nausea in both parties. 300mg recommended for those who want to stay away from the nausea.
By the way: Alibaba or Aliexpress exposes you to the worst the world has to offer. You may get a good product the first time, but ALI suppliers know each product is shipped internationally and they know retail buyers aren't doing any testing. If you're not spending $1000 on testing then you're missing the heavy metals test, pesticides test, and you're not testing via UPLC which imo should be the norm. and if you don't have an office in China you're paying international freight to return it.
Our first criteria for a new supplier is that THEY CANNOT BE LISTED IN ALIBABA. How are you going to sue a Chinese company internationally? Why would a company sell a good product for less internationally than what they can sell it for domestically? You're not going to order a kilo without testing a sample first are you? So you pay the $60 shipping for 1kg minimum on a 10g free sample and wait 2 weeks to get it, then(if you do absolutely no testing at all, or your test is a capsule down your throat) order 1kg and pray you get the same thing. If you DID plan on getting testing, 10g free sample wont give you an accurate ICP/MS(heavy metals in ppm) you need 150g. That's a whole lotta trust.
I giggle when people say they're going to order something through ALI. Gold supplier? Have you ever tried to put in a dispute through alibaba? It's sooo swayed toward the seller. If you haven't spent that $1000 on testing how do you prove to Alibaba what you're saying is true? You don't think you're going to win a dispute and get a refund from those who support Alibaba over your word do you? You don't think all those sellers know the game?
09-18-2014, 05:36 PM
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