Thoughts on safety/efficacy of ingredient. In the new Komodo visceral response.
Source?it can cause metabolic acidosis that can lead to death...
Or Trae.paging mr. cooper!
I think you are confused...We are not talking about oxy elite and how it killed people in HI.it can cause metabolic acidosis that can lead to death...
Hasn't there been some confusion over whether it's diabetes itself that causes a predisposition for acidosis or the drugs to treat it?it can cause metabolic acidosis that can lead to death...
That was not from the product itself but likely just bad raws in that batch, lots of speculation into it but I still trust USPI think you are confused...We are not talking about oxy elite and how it killed people in HI.
+ on the Defuse and still alive.I don't see an issue with a 500 mcg dose of galegine. I believe this same ingredient is in EvoMuse Defuse too. I have used that and have not died yet.
I hear you. I haven't had any adverse effects and I feel completely comfortable with that small of a dose.Being alive after ingesting something is great and all but doesn't necessarily mean it's safe. I ingested craze for a long time. I'm still alive. Doesn't make eth safe.
There are lots of things you can say about that. People thought fumes from solder were completely safe. They have been saying that for 50 years. Though, only recently it was noted as being hazardous for your health.Being alive after ingesting something is great and all but doesn't necessarily mean it's safe. I ingested craze for a long time. I'm still alive. Doesn't make eth safe.
Ok? Soooo I should assume it's not safe with that example? Just trying to find out a little more info if available. I know something dosed in micrograms has to be potent lol. Thanks guys.There are lots of things you can say about that. People thought fumes from solder were completely safe. They have been saying that for 50 years. Though, only recently it was noted as being hazardous for your health.
True. I see a ton of posts where people ask about how much they should take of a supplement when there are clear directions on the bottle.+ on the Defuse and still alive.
Manufacturer isn't going to produce and sell something that has potential life threatening results as long as used by instructions on the bottle.
People have OD'd on stims and other **** because they injested waaaay too much. Users have to take some responsibility to what they shove in their face. If they can't read directions they shouldn't be using anything that requires directions.
That is not the point of the post. The point is that there is all kinds of **** in the world that nobody knows the long term effects of. Newer chemical food additives, pesticides on produce, New PH's, new stims like amp citrate ect..ect....the list can go on and on. If you are worried about a product then don't take it. That is your choice. People know PH's and anabolics are hard on the body and can be dangerous. Do they still use them? YES.Ok? Soooo I should assume it's not safe with that example? Just trying to find out a little more info if available. I know something dosed in micrograms has to be potent lol. Thanks guys.
500mcg or 500mg? if MCG, you have nothing to worry in terms of safety or efficacy about at that dose..I don't see an issue with a 500 mcg dose of galegine. I believe this same ingredient is in EvoMuse Defuse too. I have used that and have not died yet.
it's probably open for debate, I would stick to berberine or corosolic acid.Hasn't there been some confusion over whether it's diabetes itself that causes a predisposition for acidosis or the drugs to treat it?
--
- Bodmer M, Meier C, Krahenbuhl S, Jick SS, Meier CR. Metformin, sulfonylureas, or other antidiabetes drugs and the risk of lactic acidosis or hypoglycemia: a nested case-control analysis. Diabetes Care. 2008;31:2086-2091. Abstract
- Hamnvik OP, McMahon GT. Balancing risk and benefit with oral hypoglycemic drugs. Mt Sinai J Med. 2009;76:234-243. Abstract
--
That said, Galegine was abandoned in favor of the more effective metformin for a reason I imagine.
This I agree with.it's probably open for debate, I would stick to berberine or corosolic acid.
or a patentability issue...
Not saying they would specifically. However, this industry is focused on sales... Not the long term safety of anyone's health. As others have stated, being novel for the sake of it isn't always a good thing. I was looking for info on the ingredient specifically and there doesn't appear to be much. Obviously people will take what they want. I PERSONALLY would rather have some info on what I ingest....the supplier and manufacturer of VR will not knowingly put out a product or ingredient if it posed immediate danger to somebody's health or life.
he had already left positive thoughts on it on another forum. I'm sure when he has some free time he may chime in.I would love to hear Coopers thought on this ingredient. VR is an impressive product on paper.
Amazing ingredientThoughts on safety/efficacy of ingredient. In the new Komodo visceral response.
YesIsn't Galegine the compound that Metformin was derived from for diabetics?
Thread starter | Similar threads | Forum | Replies | Date |
---|---|---|---|---|
Buying Bulk Galegine | Supplements | 2 |