Can someone tell me which one is superior? I am asking cuz I wanna do a creatine No2 stack. I am either gonna get some bulk CEE and some No2 product, or get No-xplode which is an no2 product that contains dicreatine malate.
Tri-creatine malate and di-creatine malate are the same thing. Actually tri-creatine malate doesn't exist, it is di-creatine malate.NO-xplode gives good results, but the amount of caffeine is ungodly. Who wants to be come addicted to caffeine because of their workout supplement? :-\ Not to mention it is so overpriced.
Stick with bulk citrulline malate, bulk cee/di-creatine malate, and bulk di-arginine malate.
I prefer tri-creatine malate over CEE personally, but I have not yet tried di-creatine malate (should be identical in effect though).
Here is the label for V12 Turbo. Just using it as an example. I thought Di-creatine is one thing and tri-creatine was just the trademarked name that SAN uses for their proprietary blend of mono AND Dicreatine salts. See below on the label:Tri-creatine malate and di-creatine malate are the same thing. Actually tri-creatine malate doesn't exist, it is di-creatine malate.
Many products, such as NOZ And Pump-Tech use "tricreatine malate" as well. I believe the only difference in effect between the 2 would be taht tricreatine has a 3:1 ratio of creatine to malic acid, and dicreatine would have 2:1. So in other words they should have no difference at all in effect between the 2. Also it might just be a different way of stating the chemical name, meaning they are one and the same, as Sir Foxx mentioned.
TriCreatine MalateTM 4.0 g
(proprietary blend of mono and dicreatine salts, 3:1 Molar)
Very enlightening, thanks. I assume you are talking about Derek? Was that discussion over on the AL forums?The owner of Syntrax explained that when he first came out with swole he mistakenly labled it as having tricreatine malate. He found out there is no such thing as tricreatine malate only dicreatine malate and relabeled his product. Other companies chose not to, probably for marketing purposes thinking that tricreatine sounds more powerful than dicreatine. The tricreatine mix in V-12 turbo is just mono mixed with dicreatine, hence they call it tricreatine, which chemically means nothing.
The owner of Syntrax explained that when he first came out with swole he mistakenly labled it as having tricreatine malate. He found out there is no such thing as tricreatine malate only dicreatine malate and relabeled his product. Other companies chose not to, probably for marketing purposes thinking that tricreatine sounds more powerful than dicreatine. The tricreatine mix in V-12 turbo is just mono mixed with dicreatine, hence they call it tricreatine, which chemically means nothing.
Very enlightening, thanks. I assume you are talking about Derek? Was that discussion over on the AL forums?
I don't think adding mono hurts in any way. Regular V12 didn't have mono in it though. Sorry to hear Swole V2 didn't work for you. Good thing there is variety in the market, as Swole V2 works great for me, V-12 was ok, I haven't tried V-12turbo.Yeah, it's just a trademarked name like I explained. Do you think that having both mono AND dicreatine together really makes a difference? Or do they have no synergisitc effects whatsoever and is all marketing hype?? I ask because I used Swole V2 and didn't notice anything. But with regular v12 and the new turbo, it's like night and day. Could be the difference in the other ingredients as well, but just wanted your opinion on it....
You are correct by indicating the respective molar ratios: For example: A 4gram dose of Tricreatine-Malate provides the user 3grams of creatine and 1gram of malic acid once ionized in the stomach. An equal dose of Dicreatine-Malate would supply the user 2.64grams of creatine and 1.36grams of malic acid, respectively. As you can see the two essentially carry the same organic compounds and only differ in weight proportions from each other.Many products, such as NOZ And Pump-Tech use "tricreatine malate" as well. I believe the only difference in effect between the 2 would be taht tricreatine has a 3:1 ratio of creatine to malic acid, and dicreatine would have 2:1. So in other words they should have no difference at all in effect between the 2. Also it might just be a different way of stating the chemical name, meaning they are one and the same, as Sir Foxx mentioned.
1fast400who sells di-arginine?
I have been taking that for 4 days.CEE+ citruline malate+ arginine AKG= awsome stack