So after a 7 week run of new Erase...

[Type O Hero]

I would never buy this formula again. The original armistane formula was much better. You could feel it working. On new Erase I couldn't feel or see any noticeable difference. It doesn't help dry you out nor does it provide any muscle hardening effects.

My next stack includes AlphaMax, which has armistane, which I'm looking forward to.

If PES keeps this new formula, I doubt they'll have much repeat business.

 

[Afi140]

I would never buy this formula again. The original armistane formula was much better. You could feel it working. On new Erase I couldn't feel or see any noticeable difference. It doesn't help dry you out nor does it provide any muscle hardening effects. My next stack includes AlphaMax, which has armistane, which I'm looking forward to. If PES keeps this new formula, I doubt they'll have much repeat business.

Interesting. I like arimistane but haven't tried the new erase formula. You literally felt nothing on it?

Btw if you don't have alphamax on hand It's on sale for $28.99 on islandsupppements with a free fitmax just as a heads up.

 

[cbsharpe]

Well, again, some people like the OG formula and there are some who like the new formula. What may or may not work for one, may not be the case for another, so keep that in mind.

Speaking Alphamax, I'm using that right along with follidrone. It's too early to tell if it's working because it's only been a week.

 

[Type O Hero]

Interesting. I like arimistane but haven't tried the new erase formula. You literally felt nothing on it?

Btw if you don't have alphamax on hand It's on sale for $28.99 on islandsupppements with a free fitmax just as a heads up.

Effects were close to nil.

 

[Type O Hero]

Well, again, some people like the OG formula and there are some who like the new formula. What may or may not work for one, may not be the case for another, so keep that in mind.

Speaking Alphamax, I'm using that right along with follidrone. It's too early to tell if it's working because it's only been a week.

There are also some people who like Cell-Tech.

 

[cubsfan815]

Interesting. I like arimistane but haven't tried the new erase formula. You literally felt nothing on it?

Btw if you don't have alphamax on hand It's on sale for $28.99 on islandsupppements with a free fitmax just as a heads up.

Wow that's a sick price for that combo!

I'm on week 6 of the new EPro, I also had a week off from dental work, skipped pills, so my run kinda got ruined. I was hoping to compare the new to the old, but with the downtime I messed that all up.

 

[Here2Learn33]

just picked up the old formula along with that alphamax nice price

 

[mechka_grizli]

What dosage did you run it at? I for one did not see any results until the 4 week mark. Also it seems that 4 caps of normal erase is better than the 3 that is suggested. Many dose an extra cap of normal erase with Erase Pro

 

[Afi140]

just picked up the old formula along with that alphamax nice price

Yes sir. Can't beat that promo.

 

[SwolenONE]

AlphaMax is an awesome formula.

 

[mr.cooper69]

I'm sorry that you didn't enjoy it, but you are in the minority here my friend. We actually have more repeat business than ever with the new formula. And yes, we sacrificied "feel" for improved results. These days, if something doesn't give someone an "in your face" effect in a matter of days or weeks, it's just "not good enough." Instant gratification is a thing of the new generation...needing information, social media, etc at your fingertips, but also energy (megadoses of caffeine/stims), drying out (diuresis with original erase) as well. If I can't notice effects in a week, I question whether it's working. I say "I" because we are all subject to this train of thought these days, myself included.

But having spent close to a year behind the scenes with the new formula, I have no question in my mind that the new formula works better than the old one. It does so in practice, it does so by the science, and it does so according to sales and feedback. The only negative feedback I've seen is from yourself, Johnold, and one other member here. I truly am sorry that you're in the minority and that you put faith in us when making the purchase. Not everything works for everyone, and in this case, you may be one of the few who responded better to the original Erase.

 

[BPjohn123]

I'm sorry that you didn't enjoy it, but you are in the minority here my friend. We actually have more repeat business than ever with the new formula. And yes, we sacrificied "feel" for improved results. These days, if something doesn't give someone an "in your face" effect in a matter of days or weeks, it's just "not good enough." Instant gratification is a thing of the new generation...needing information, social media, etc at your fingertips, but also energy (megadoses of caffeine/stims), drying out (diuresis with original erase) as well. If I can't notice effects in a week, I question whether it's working. I say "I" because we are all subject to this train of thought these days, myself included.

But having spent close to a year behind the scenes with the new formula, I have no question in my mind that the new formula works better than the old one. It does so in practice, it does so by the science, and it does so according to sales and feedback. The only negative feedback I've seen is from yourself, Johnold, and one other member here. I truly am sorry that you're in the minority and that you put faith in us when making the purchase. Not everything works for everyone, and in this case, you may be one of the few who responded better to the original Erase.

Well said

 

[Afi140]

This is still on my try list. Will give it a go in the next few months

 

[Bnatural]

I'm sorry that you didn't enjoy it, but you are in the minority here my friend. We actually have more repeat business than ever with the new formula. And yes, we sacrificied "feel" for improved results. These days, if something doesn't give someone an "in your face" effect in a matter of days or weeks, it's just "not good enough." Instant gratification is a thing of the new generation...needing information, social media, etc at your fingertips, but also energy (megadoses of caffeine/stims), drying out (diuresis with original erase) as well. If I can't notice effects in a week, I question whether it's working. I say "I" because we are all subject to this train of thought these days, myself included.

But having spent close to a year behind the scenes with the new formula, I have no question in my mind that the new formula works better than the old one. It does so in practice, it does so by the science, and it does so according to sales and feedback. The only negative feedback I've seen is from yourself, Johnold, and one other member here. I truly am sorry that you're in the minority and that you put faith in us when making the purchase. Not everything works for everyone, and in this case, you may be one of the few who responded better to the original Erase.

Or you can be really informative and people believe what you say.
A solid mind is something a company needs.
Marketing for PES seems to be a bigger piece these days. I do like PES. Currently use the old formula of erase.
However, sales is not the end-all for determining real world effectiveness. The supplement world is filled with new users looking to experience new gains. So if this is the first Supp they use in this category and they get some form of a result they are likely to stick with it.
A new user is more likely to see "results" based on just beginning exercise or at least at a serious level.

 

[BPjohn123]

I'm about a week into my second D-Pol/Erase Pro stack, this time with the new Erase Pro. The first go around, with the old Erase Pro, I got some serious nipple sensitivity/itchiness about 4 days in. I laid off the D-Pol and continued with the Erase Pro. This time around, I'm going strong after 6 days, no sensitivity/itchiness. So I don't know what's going on, but I must respond to this new version better. And as a plus, my bum left shoulder isn't hurting like it did on the old version. I know this is "too soon" to accurately give a review, but when I compare the first week of the old vs. the new, I'm 100% in favor of this new formula.

Thanks for the feedback! Keep us updated . I prefer the new version.I have bottles and bottles of the arimistane version at my house that I haven't been using because i love the new formula.

 

[T-Bone]

I'm only a few days into the new erase pro. When I tried the old Erase pro I was in pain within 3 days. So at least I'm able to use this version.

 

[mr.cooper69]

Or you can be really informative and people believe what you say.
A solid mind is something a company needs.
Marketing for PES seems to be a bigger piece these days. I do like PES. Currently use the old formula of erase.
However, sales is not the end-all for determining real world effectiveness. The supplement world is filled with new users looking to experience new gains. So if this is the first Supp they use in this category and they get some form of a result they are likely to stick with it.
A new user is more likely to see "results" based on just beginning exercise or at least at a serious level.

If you know me, you know sales is the last thing I cite. And science is the first. I was merely answering the quote by OP about our future sales.

If the science interests you, please take a look:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/pes/239618-abieta-8-11-a.html
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/pes/239679-uncaria-tomentosa-extract.html

We have indeed ramped up our marketing, but at the same time we've ramped up our science and it's stronger than ever.

PES Select protein? Kindly find me a superior ingredient profile.
How about Norcodrene? 4 novel uses of ingredients, including nomilin which is exploiting an all new pathway (TGR5 agonism).

I have posted scientific writeups of every new PES ingredient in every new product in the PES section. We obviously want to expand, hence more marketing, but rest assured, the scientific basis for product creation has never been stronger. If you feel otherwise, I'd suggest looking at other top companies and see how many of them introduce 1-2 never-before-seen ingredients, sports nutritionally speaking, in each new product they release. Or any other top company that breaks down the science and studies behind all their products in separate threads. All the new formulas are evidence-based, and this is why they work. I only reference sales because it was the topic of the conversation

 

[mr.cooper69]

I'm about a week into my second D-Pol/Erase Pro stack, this time with the new Erase Pro. The first go around, with the old Erase Pro, I got some serious nipple sensitivity/itchiness about 4 days in. I laid off the D-Pol and continued with the Erase Pro. This time around, I'm going strong after 6 days, no sensitivity/itchiness. So I don't know what's going on, but I must respond to this new version better. And as a plus, my bum left shoulder isn't hurting like it did on the old version. I know this is "too soon" to accurately give a review, but when I compare the first week of the old vs. the new, I'm 100% in favor of this new formula.

Great to hear you and t-bone are doing alright so far. It is indeed probably too early to tell but I look forward to seeing your results in a few weeks!

 

[Type O Hero]

OG Erase was one of my favorites. It noticeably dried me out and my muscles felt pumped all day. Armistane is great.

New Erase did not do this for me. I think I'd look and feel the same if I hadn't taken the Erase.

 

[mechka_grizli]

OG Erase was one of my favorites. It noticeably dried me out and my muscles felt pumped all day. Armistane is great.

New Erase did not do this for me. I think I'd look and feel the same if I hadn't taken the Erase.

What you are saying sort of prove coops point. The main thing everyone seems to comment on is the immediate drying out effects of OG erase. The diuretic properties doesn't equal greater fat loss

 

[chisler]

Thanks for the feedback! Keep us updated . I prefer the new version.I have bottles and bottles of the arimistane version at my house that I haven't been using because i love the new formula.

can i buy some of those from you?

 

[Type O Hero]

What you are saying sort of prove coops point. The main thing everyone seems to comment on is the immediate drying out effects of OG erase. The diuretic properties doesn't equal greater fat loss

I specifically took it for the leaning "effect," not to speed fat loss.

Armistane is great for the summer because it makes a lean and muscular person's definition stand out. Anyone who isn't already lean won't get the same effect.