I used to use both of these suppliments a few years back and then I got more into ph's. Now with ban I would like to revisite both products. I know that much advancment has been made since creatine mono and the first NO2 came out. I have been reading about CEE, and some of the new N02 products and I am wondering, who makes the best CEE and NO2 now? I have hear alot about NOexplode, is this the best N02 product? Just so you know, I am not into making my own NO2, I don't wanna buy everything in bulk. Also, I dont mind putting on water weight, I would actually prefer a CEE that induced water retention (if such a CEE product exsists). Thanks guys