Better nootropics all in one products out which are far less expensive and a whole lot more effective.
Nothing against those products you've mentioned but there's still better premade formulas out there for nootropics at even better prices. Animal Pharm for one puts out some decent ones. Including one with a small dose of adrafinil included.
Wow, didn't even know about those. Good stuff.
Yeah, before buying it I read a lot of people complaining about price and dosing so I went an tried to get some ingredients separately, but it all ended up being more expensive than alpha brain, but of course more ingredients that would last longer. Because of this I just decided to go with alphabrain to see if I even liked nootropics since I was completely new to them. I have been taking alphabrain for a few days now and has actually lived up to my expectations. I'm definitely more focused, and I spend about at least 30 minutes a day on cambridgebrainsciences.com to see my scores before AB go up, which they have, especially in the concentration tests. imgur: the simple image sharer imgur: the simple image sharer
Will definitely check those out, thanks!
I find a lot of the more popular natural stacks are good but tend to be stimulating more than helping with actual absorption of information. So great for cramming but for overall memory enhancement and learning, racetam stacks seem to be more appropriate. I've actually bought the sample pack Animal Pharm has, I didn't go crazy and go for the 10 caps of each pack though, lol. That was too much of a commitment.
Any thoughts on the Kusanagi blend? (noopept 100mg, piracetam 850mg/pill)
Way too much noopept for me. Made me a little too easily aggravated. I usually take 10-20 mg's of noopept at a time. Might work for you though, I would highly suggest taking some choline with it.
Animal Pharm is putting out some interesting supps, what would you recommend for focus?
It's really dependent on the individual. I suggest picking up the sampler pack to figure out what works best for XYZ for you.
Can the products on animal pharm be used while on stimulants such as clen or EC?
I would take them hours apart from heavy stims. Lots of negs comes along with such stacks sometimes. I would definitely not use anything with adrafinil in it with heavy stims (or any stims for that matter). This goes with pretty much all heavy duty nootropics.
This. It is a shame that people are being duped that don't know noots and adaptogens into thinking this is a quality product.
Focux XT does what it says it does on the tin and it's a good product (based on the profile, I haven't actually tried the product myself but have tried those ingredients together or on their own combined with other things, etc.). It's just more of a natty focus product rather than something that is geared for things like long term cognition, memory, learning, etc. Focus XT is also VERY good as a preworkout or part of a preworkout stack. Different tools for different jobs really. Just when people mention nootropics, my mind goes towards potent nootropic ingredients that deal with memory, learning capacity, RNA health, etc. since they tend to be more effective and also cheaper in the long run than a lot of other supplements on the market (especially when you buy the things in bulk, have you seen the price for noopept powder? it's like next to nothing!).
Modafinil + piracetam >>>>>>>>>>> phenylpiracetam
We respond very similarly. Bacopa and phenylP FTW
Oh man, modafinil made me feel crazy. I did not like the feeling at all and I was so uncomfortable in my own skin I just wanted it to stop.Modafinil + piracetam >>>>>>>>>>> phenylpiracetam
I will say that Bacopa has quickly come to be my favorite supplement. Very close to ashwagandha, but the recall and overall mental clarity is so noticeable.
Ah, I see I see. You're one of those freaked out on modafinil folks. Understandable
Yeah, I wouldn't use modafinil if it has that effect on you. I would stay even further away from adrafinil not because it's stronger or anything, but because there's a delay before it hits you as opposed to modafinil where you pop it and pretty quickly it hits you so you can anticipate it better.
It appears that brand provides 70 mg of Bacopa Saposins per caplet. The one I've been taking lately (and is helping with anxiety) is stardardized to Triterpine Glycosides (including Bacosides, Bacopasides, Bacopasaponins, Luteolin, Apigenin, Bacosine and Beta-sitosterol) and provides 175 mg per capsule (recommendation is 2 capsules per day). That's more than twice the amount in many other brands. Is Bacopa one of those supplements that's better at lower dosages or does anyone know if there's an upper limit that would start to have negative effects in the long run?
Are you using Nutrigold Bacopa Gold?
Yes. It's been good for reducing my anxiety but also provides a small headache.
Maybe Mr Cooper can answer this?
Maybe. Bacopa Gold is 225 mg at 50% (BacoMind) and 275 mg at 20% per capsule. So, the percent extract is really high compared to others too. However, I don't know what this means in the short or long term when compared to those other brands.
Most racetams are natural supplements used for for cognitive enhancement.Google examine.com for further research help.
Technically they are a drug and I think all of them don't actually appear in nature and/or are not metabolites of anything?
True because they do not occur naturally and are not natural derivatives.
I think the term nootropic was created initially for the purpose of being able to categorize piracetam because it was a new synthesized chemical/drug.
Yeah, I've searched examine.com on all of this before, but still some unanswered questions. If noopept, piracetam, etc are all natural then why are they not more widely available as stuff like bacopa, alpha GPC, etc?
Because noopept and racetams are not natural? Bacopa is from a plant. Alpha-GPC is a form of choline which is a nutrient. There are nootropic drugs such as the racetams, some stimulants, etc. Then there are nutrients that can have nootropic properties. Then there are herbal/plant extracts which have nootropic properties.
Lol yeah that's what I thought I was confused when koi said racetams were natural. So, pretty much racetams are just more effective?
I agree and I did edit my post.Since they do not occur in nature and they are not natural derivatives
I apologize I was wrong.No more broscience from me.
Tetsuo looks pretty cool, did you try that one?
I wouldn't say more effective. These things all do different things. Racetams and noopept are basically drugs that increases uptake of choline (that's why many also take them with a choline source, otherwise some people end up with headaches and what not due to choline depletation). A lot of the herbal extract stuff do other things like they might have CNS stimulating qualities, anti-anxiety, etc. which can be beneficial for cognition. Some are nutrients like tyrosine which can complement and enhance other ingredients such as CNS stimulants (caffeine for example). Some are nutrients which helps things like RNA production. So it’s not one is better than the other.
No, not necessarily. Some racetams don't work at all for some people and why there is such a strong stance from those that find one that works.
Only a handful of times from the sample pack I bought. There’s not a lot of adrafinil in it but it doesn’t feel like they were trying to go for that full heads on keep you going through the night feel. I think they added it in to just give you that bit of pep to synergize with the rest of the other ingredients.
It helps clear mental fog as well as just generally allow you to function well with the task at hand and also be able to go for quite awhile. I would be cautious with use, I know that when I first played around with it, I took it like every day without breaks for a short while, stuff kind of build up for me and I had some insomnia. YMMV.No worries man, we're all here to teach and learn
I see. I'm probably going to try focus xt, phenibut xt, and some bacopa.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to just keep researching and trying different things out.
That's what I felt on Piracetam and Alpha GPC, didn't really "feel" anything except I had hard time to sleepOnly a handful of times from the sample pack I bought. There’s not a lot of adrafinil in it but it doesn’t feel like they were trying to go for that full heads on keep you going through the night feel. I think they added it in to just give you that bit of pep to synergize with the rest of the other ingredients.
With modafinil/adrafinil, I would half dose them at first (100 mg’s for modafinil, 150 mg’s for adrafinil) to see how you respond to it. Stuff is not like meth though, so please keep expectations reasonable
Oh, you will 110% be awake on modafinil or adrafinil (well, for most people at least). If you have to get work done, when you’re doing the work you will just not feel fatigued. The difference here is that you’re not going to be jittery. You’re awake and clear minded and able to focus on the task at hand. What you won’t be is feeling like you want to run around flipping over cars and what not. It’s also not the Adderall effect.That's what I felt on Piracetam and Alpha GPC, didn't really "feel" anything except I had hard time to sleep
To be honest, I do try to find the Meth effect, lol!
I would like something to "wake" my mind up and keep it sharp! I tend to get disappointed when I try stuff on my own so I would like a recommendation on a mix that would good, the closer to Adderall the better
Thanks!
Lol, that's what I'm looking for!!!
Nothing that is legal, prescription and/or will do that at suggested safe doses.