Higher ArA dosage, or ArA stack?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    I would do one or the other. No need to run both if you have 2g carnitine already available
    Cool, good to know! Thanks
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by Misfit28 View Post

    Cool, good to know! Thanks
    No problem
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    Off topic question: What are your thoughts on taking ArA + carbs (~30g) + leucine first thing in the AM and lifting shortly after? Will that transient increase in insulin shift the likelihood of ArA being delivered to skeletal muscle?
    I would not advise it.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by Synapsin View Post
    I would not advise it.
    How about just the leucine then...

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Synapsin View Post

    I would not advise it.
    Can you give a partial or full explanation as I'm curious as well
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    It'd be more beneficial to add the GMS and Carnitine IMO.
    This right here. I use Compete and Hemavol with my X-gels everytime I run ARA.

  7. Interested in tho as I was considering this on my next run
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Go with a 5-lpo inhibitor and hca for the next time you use it with GMS and carnitine.

    Muscular uptake and amount of ara In the stem would be high,
    How about Lodhra Bark (symplocos racemosa extract) as a lipoxygenase inhibitor?

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15938197

    If so ArA + Anabeta elite + metabolic powder might nake for a good stack
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  9. So your saying use AA and anebeta elite together with alcat
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by laneanders View Post
    This right here. I use Compete and Hemavol with my X-gels everytime I run ARA.
    Great combo. Do you typically add any bulk GMS?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by cheftepesh1 View Post
    So your saying use AA and anebeta elite together with alcat
    Along with HCA which, as @EBF Inc had pointed out a couple post back, may help with cellular uptake
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    Great combo. Do you typically add any bulk GMS?
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by cheftepesh1 View Post
    So your saying use AA and anebeta elite together with alcat
    They would stack very well
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Go with a 5-lpo inhibitor and hca for the next time you use it with GMS and carnitine.

    Muscular uptake and amount of ara In the stem would be high,
    Interested how you'd set this up?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by BPjohn123 View Post
    They would stack very well
    Yup. As pointed out by @EBF Inc

    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    COX and LPO breakdown the ArA into the luekotrienes and thromboxanes

    Inhibiting them (5-LPO and COX-2 inhibitor) leaves more Arachidonic acid available for uptake into muscle cells. This would be a good thing.
    So when we take ArA some of it gets broken down into luekotrienes and thromboxanes via LPO and COX. Now if we could inhibit both of them it would result in more ArA to stay which meams there is more that could be used by our muscles

    So the proposed above stack would inhibit ArA being broken down into thromboxanes via l-carnitine ( http://ajpheart.physiology.org/content/284/1/H41) and inhibit ArA being broken down into luekotrienes via anabeta elite (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15938197)

    So l-carnitine and anabeta elite would create the enviroment for optimal available ArA.

    Now also, as pointed out by @EBF Inc

    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    This may also be where garcinia Cambogia (50% hca) can play into effect in the cellular uptake but via a different mechanism (CD36).
    So we add HCA to help all that now extra ArA to be able to get used by our muscles

    Hence the stack of ArA + Anabeta Elite + l-carnitine + metabolic powder
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post

    Hence the stack of ArA + Anabeta Elite + l-carnitine + metabolic powder

    And so you'd reccomend this all pre-workout? Aren't ABE & MP meant to be taken with food?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by MultiVitamin View Post
    And so you'd reccomend this all pre-workout? Aren't ABE & MP meant to be taken with food?
    ABE is recommended pre-workout. MP is also recommended pre-workout. Both can be taken with or without food.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    ABE is recommended pre-workout. MP is also recommended pre-workout. Both can be taken with or without food.
    Okay thanks man

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  21. That's from this thread son!

  22. oops,my bad
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    How about just the leucine then...
    Yes, that would be fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Can you give a partial or full explanation as I'm curious as well
    Short on time, but I will get into it later if I remember. I'm sure Cyrus or someone else can explain if they have time (assuming they're asked nicely ).
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Synapsin View Post
    Yes, that would be fine.



    Short on time, but I will get into it later if I remember. I'm sure Cyrus or someone else can explain if they have time (assuming they're asked nicely ).
    I'll be sending constant messages.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Synapsin View Post

    Yes, that would be fine.

    Short on time, but I will get into it later if I remember. I'm sure Cyrus or someone else can explain if they have time (assuming they're asked nicely ).
    I actually just read a study while I was searching showing some sort of blunted effects in the presence of insulin maybe on the prostaglandin formation. **** I wish I remembered
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