Article shows Muscle Pharm shenanigans, also...

  1. Elite Member
    rob112's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  216 lbs.
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    5,563
    Rep Power
    338453
    Level
    58
    Lv. Percent
    58.14%
    Achievements Activity ProActivity AuthorityPosting ProPosting Authority

    http://suppversity.blogspot.com/?m=1


    Just thought this was interesting. We all know of two of the culprits, but I always thought MP was a clean company. Granted they prop blend like champs
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/231713-rob112-3-means.html
    "Train like a beast, think like a human"-RTS

  2. New Member
    Monte Brogan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    138
    Rep Power
    101155
    Level
    19
    Lv. Percent
    14.89%

    Interesting article. Curious if anyone thinks DS is innocent here? "i.e. PEA and ETH occur randomly in some batch of raw ingredients DS got from God knows where in China." If thats the case, it makes you wonder about their quality control and third party testing of ingredients.

    Monte
  3. Senior Member
    De__eB's Avatar
    Stats
    5'6"  169 lbs.
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    1,025
    Rep Power
    1731969
    Level
    56
    Lv. Percent
    93.1%
    Achievements Posting ProActivity Pro

    It's kind of a stretch to say that musclepharm reformulated assault because they were afraid they'd be busted with 30mg of PEA per serving...

    Basic PEA is usually dosed at 500mg....1g...sometimes even more...

    It's probably reflective of some poor QC somewhere in MP's manufacturing, but would have nothing to do with them reformulating.
    SNS Representative - DeeB@seriousnutritionsolutions .com
    •   
       

  4. New Member
    Monte Brogan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    138
    Rep Power
    101155
    Level
    19
    Lv. Percent
    14.89%

    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    It's kind of a stretch to say that musclepharm reformulated assault because they were afraid they'd be busted with 30mg of PEA per serving...

    Basic PEA is usually dosed at 500mg....1g...sometimes even more...

    It's probably reflective of some poor QC somewhere in MP's manufacturing, but would have nothing to do with them reformulating.
    DeeB, how common do you think poor QC practices are within American supplement companies? With so many raws coming from China these days, it's a bit scary to think about corners being cut.

    Monte
  5. Senior Member
    De__eB's Avatar
    Stats
    5'6"  169 lbs.
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    1,025
    Rep Power
    1731969
    Level
    56
    Lv. Percent
    93.1%
    Achievements Posting ProActivity Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Monte Brogan View Post
    DeeB, how common do you think poor QC practices are within American supplement companies? With so many raws coming from China these days, it's a bit scary to think about corners being cut.

    Monte
    Like 70% of companies get cited for at least one cGMP violation every inspection.

    Some of those are minor clerical errors.

    Some are complete failures to even attempt to comply with cGMP.
    SNS Representative - DeeB@seriousnutritionsolutions .com
  6. New Member
    Segansational's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    338
    Rep Power
    329691
    Level
    32
    Lv. Percent
    17.96%
    Achievements Activity Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    It's kind of a stretch to say that musclepharm reformulated assault because they were afraid they'd be busted with 30mg of PEA per serving...

    Basic PEA is usually dosed at 500mg....1g...sometimes even more...

    It's probably reflective of some poor QC somewhere in MP's manufacturing, but would have nothing to do with them reformulating.
    I'm assuming that PEA was not listed in MP's assault? Because that should be legal, unless things have changed...

    But it was overall interesting to see how variable the ETH was in Craze and Detonate. Which could be why people mentioned how much stronger other batches were
    ALLMAX Nutrition Forum Rep
    Allmaxnutrition.com
  7. Senior Member
    De__eB's Avatar
    Stats
    5'6"  169 lbs.
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    1,025
    Rep Power
    1731969
    Level
    56
    Lv. Percent
    93.1%
    Achievements Posting ProActivity Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Segansational View Post
    I'm assuming that PEA was not listed in MP's assault? Because that should be legal, unless things have changed...

    But it was overall interesting to see how variable the ETH was in Craze and Detonate. Which could be why people mentioned how much stronger other batches were
    Yeah, the PEA wasn't on Assaults label. I would imagine some raw of theirs was contaminated.

    To suggest that someone would intentionally spike a product with an off-label ingredient, at a dose that would have no appreciable effect whatsoever however...is just silly
    SNS Representative - DeeB@seriousnutritionsolutions .com
  8. Elite Member
    rob112's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  216 lbs.
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    5,563
    Rep Power
    338453
    Level
    58
    Lv. Percent
    58.14%
    Achievements Activity ProActivity AuthorityPosting ProPosting Authority

    Thank you De_eB
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/231713-rob112-3-means.html
    "Train like a beast, think like a human"-RTS
  9. New Member
    Monte Brogan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    138
    Rep Power
    101155
    Level
    19
    Lv. Percent
    14.89%

    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    Like 70% of companies get cited for at least one cGMP violation every inspection.

    Some of those are minor clerical errors.

    Some are complete failures to even attempt to comply with cGMP.
    DeeB, thanks for the info. One would hope that the identification of contaminated raw materials would be of the utmost importance for these companies. MP fell short here. Wonder if this was a one-off example or a pattern of negligent behavior...

    Monte
  10. Elite Member
    criticalbench's Avatar
    Stats
    5'1"  0 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    7,829
    Rep Power
    767475
    Level
    62
    Lv. Percent
    53.22%
    Achievements Activity ProActivity AuthorityPosting ProPosting Authority

    Interesting article for sure!

    Mike
  11. smoker145
    Guest
    smoker145's Avatar

    I swear to god ill pistol whip the next guy who says shenanigans
  12. Senior Member
    rphash49's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  210 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Posts
    1,520
    Rep Power
    118671
    Level
    35
    Lv. Percent
    88.82%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by smoker145 View Post
    I swear to god ill pistol whip the next guy who says shenanigans
    Shenanigans
  

  
 

Similar Forum Threads

  1. Muscle Pharm Looking for Reps.
    By trueathlete in forum Company Promotions
    Replies: 161
    Last Post: 05-20-2008, 06:27 AM
  2. Replies: 11
    Last Post: 03-22-2006, 02:37 PM
  3. Replies: 7
    Last Post: 05-25-2004, 03:04 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Log in
Log in