Valium - Which supp resembles it?

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    Valium - Which supp resembles it?


    Just had surgery. I had the wonderful experience of getting a short term scrip (5 pills lol) for Valium

    Wow. Insane sleep. Lol

    I have been taking sleep formulas for ages. None can hang and none give me that deep rested feeling most notably when I wake up the next day.

    What supplement works via similar pathways?
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    They are unique... Benzo's(Valium etc), feel like Benzo's... I'd be interested to see what others come up with...
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    I don't think any natural compound can come close to Benzodiazepines.
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    Legal marketable to human supplements? none.

    Grey market research chemicals? There's a few.
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    something that's l;egal that will help with feelings of well-being is GABA. otherwise, you're looking at RCs or the real deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSwanks View Post
    something that's l;egal that will help with feelings of well-being is GABA. otherwise, you're looking at RCs or the real deal.
    comparing gaba to benzo like bozo to indo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Touey View Post
    comparing gaba to benzo like bozo to indo
    oh i know it's not even close, but it's the best i can think of for a calming and well-being feeling from a natural supplement
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    Closest legal OTC supp would have to be phenibut still doesn't really come close to benzos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Touey View Post
    comparing gaba to benzo like comparing Michelle Obama against Hillary Clinton; period.
    You know, Touey - most times I can follow where you are gong, but this time ...

    I got nothin'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beau View Post

    You know, Touey - most times I can follow where you are gong, but this time ...

    I got nothin'
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    A strong kava brew is extremely relaxing and somewhat intoxicating. Benzo-like? No. But good stuff
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    as far as improving sleep you could try intimidate as its got a real cult following when it comes to sleep enhancement..
    abyss is probably unparalleled for a high end sleep supplement..

    nothing is going to knock you out like a benzo legally that im aware of.
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    What about DSIP? I've seen doses range from 125mcg to 500mcg. Could be worth a shot (see wut I did there?)

    Nothing's going to compare to a benzo (kpins, xanies or valiums) OTC wise. But, for deep restful sleep DSIP may be your answer
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    Research etizolam pellets, legal for research purposes. Make ur rat feel like he took 10mg valium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 13bret View Post
    Research etizolam pellets, legal for research purposes. Make ur rat feel like he took 10mg valium.
    Read the all blue pellets (inside and out, w/no score) are fakes. I'd like to get some of these for class (have mild anxiety)
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    Try phenazepam, it's most likely unregulated wherever you're from.
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    Allopregnolone??
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    Valium was based on Valerian root.
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    Valerian is great!

    Some times, I just need a bit more

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    Valium was based on Valerian root.
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    Just get more Valium.
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    This with melatonin like 3 or 5 mg. bam. http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/m...nidren-gh.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Just had surgery. I had the wonderful experience of getting a short term scrip (5 pills lol) for Valium

    Wow. Insane sleep. Lol

    I have been taking sleep formulas for ages. None can hang and none give me that deep rested feeling most notably when I wake up the next day.

    What supplement works via similar pathways?
    Just be careful.. working in healthcare I've stumbled across a bunch of mothers (I work in a nicu) who were addicted to valium. Took it for back pain to sleep at night and now, there is no hope of coming off.

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    Nothing will work like a benzo but there are natural ingredients that have the same mechanism of action
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    Mike: I hear ya. That scares me big time!

    Coop; Anything besides valerian?

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Nothing will work like a benzo but there are natural ingredients that have the same mechanism of action
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    If the real issue is sleep . . . then go to your doctor, get a sleep study done, so that you can find the underlying causes of any sleep issues. They may prescribe something for the sleep issue.

    Common issues regarding sleep quality are: overtraining, training too close to bedtime, stress, using technology prior to sleeping, diet.

    However, if you want the vallium for other reasons, then find a doctor that's loose with the RX pad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Just had surgery. I had the wonderful experience of getting a short term scrip (5 pills lol) for Valium

    Wow. Insane sleep. Lol

    I have been taking sleep formulas for ages. None can hang and none give me that deep rested feeling most notably when I wake up the next day.

    What supplement works via similar pathways?
    I get better sleep from a combo of relora, ashwagandha and melatonin than I do from benzos (including estazolam which is freaking strong). Benzos do knock me out, but that combo gets me through the night better. Benzos are much more fun though
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    I had a temporary script for Lorazepam once. That stuff was awesome. Although when I had to come off of it I had the shakes for a few days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I had a temporary script for Lorazepam once. That stuff was awesome. Although when I had to come off of it I had the shakes for a few days.
    I have a 3 month daily script for it. I never felt anything from them either. So I don't take them
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    Benzos are really not the answer and sooner or later your body will not react the same. I would have a sleep study done. You may find the issue is far easier to handle and safer medically.
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    Hi all. I appreciate all the replies and intentionally helpful advice and admonitions on the benzos and Rx meds in general but this thread has been misconstrued and even derailed a bit. Haha

    To be clear, I never once expressed any interest in Valium or any Rx drugs for that matter but conversely conveyed that I was interested in an herbal or OTC supp that facilitated identical or even similar pathways/mechanisms as Valium; that's all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Hi all. I appreciate all the replies and intentionally helpful advice and admonitions on the benzos and Rx meds in general but this thread has been misconstrued and even derailed a bit. Haha To be clear, I never once expressed any interest in Valium or any Rx drugs for that matter but conversely conveyed that I was interested in an herbal or OTC supp that facilitated identical or even similar pathways/mechanisms as Valium; that's all
    Well, in that case, there's nothing OTC and/or herbal, that'll give a similar effect to vallium.
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    Comparable? No
    Similar? I disagree

    ~7 times out of 10 there is an herb or OTC supp that can be found to mimic the pharmacodynamics of their Rx counterpart.

    Perhaps not "pound for pound" or as efficaciously but when given in strategic or copious doses.

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    Well, in that case, there's nothing OTC and/or herbal, that'll give a similar effect to vallium.
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    Get some bulk L-theanine and play around with the dosing. 300-400mg 2-3X per day is a nice experience if you can afford it.
  

  
 

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