Supps for Heart Health

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    IForce Heart Help is the way to go!! I kid I kid.

    I like Coops list but I would include Nitrates in there somewhere. And after having discussed Niacin with Benson on another board, I wouldn't touch the stuff lol.
    Use discretion between mega-dosing niacin vs daily use . Most real nasty sides (liver/flush) are a product of clinical megadosing protocols, as niacin is the most effective overall cholesterol aid we have.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Use discretion between mega-dosing niacin vs daily use . Most real nasty sides (liver/flush) are a product of clinical megadosing protocols, as niacin is the most effective overall cholesterol aid we have.
    True, but I lend more toward the notion that total cholesterol being high isn't bad if your total triglycerides are low (inverse relationship between high trigs and LDL particle size).

    Plus I hear a common side effect is feeling like crap; is this common at daily use or more-so in mega-dosing?
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  3. Celery seed extract, Hawthorne extract both work very well for me. Cardio too, bro. It's often underrated or forgotten in our pill popping world

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    True, but I lend more toward the notion that total cholesterol being high isn't bad if your total triglycerides are low (inverse relationship between high trigs and LDL particle size).

    Plus I hear a common side effect is feeling like crap; is this common at daily use or more-so in mega-dosing?
    Megadosing. They are referencing the intolerability of the flush.

    As for the inverse relationship, it can be fickle

  5. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Megadosing. They are referencing the intolerability of the flush.

    As for the inverse relationship, it can be fickle
    Interesting. Always appreciate the knowledge impartment.

    Fickle yes, but I like the data on higher fat intakes improving lipid profiles
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  6. When I ran dymethazine which is dimethylated I took 1g of Hawthorne berry extract and 500mg of celery seed extract along with omegavia fishoil, which is like one of the most concentrated fishoil pills in the market, and I kept my bp at bay. Wasn't very pricey either, I wanna say like $75 for all of them.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by infraredline View Post
    When I ran dymethazine which is dimethylated I took 1g of Hawthorne berry extract and 500mg of celery seed extract along with omegavia fishoil, which is like one of the most concentrated fishoil pills in the market, and I kept my bp at bay. Wasn't very pricey either, I wanna say like $75 for all of them.
    6-10 legit hawthorn extract pills (depending on what PH/DS it is) get me right about where 2 5mg lisinopril do. no BS either. When I take the hawthorn with 1 5mg lisinopril, I get really low...as in what your doctor would like. What I have been doing is just using an extra lisinopril on any PH/DS cycle since the rx is free on my insurance and I use one a day anyways just to keep me in "normal" range as opposed to high normal, and the hawthorn is not necessarily pricey, but it "costs money" so.....

  8. Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post

    Yeah, but isn't cialis a Rx drug?

    I'm not sure I could convince a doctor that I have ED at 21 lol.
    Readily available at most research sights one if which kept accudently sending me it instead of letro got bottles of liquid c lying around no need to use it though since I'm blasting 700mg of prop a week. As for blood pressure supps, fish oil coq10, Hawthorne, agmatine, nitrates the list goes on
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Use discretion between mega-dosing niacin vs daily use . Most real nasty sides (liver/flush) are a product of clinical megadosing protocols, as niacin is the most effective overall cholesterol aid we have.
    Mr.Cooper will you tell my friend mega dosing niacin will not clean his pee he doesn't post but he does follow the forum and will probably listen to you
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    Mr.Cooper will you tell my friend mega dosing niacin will not clean his pee he doesn't post but he does follow the forum and will probably listen to you
    If he mega dosed niacin for real, he would get the nastiest case of flushing that would be EXTREMELY uncomfortable and he would never do it again. Let him try it if he hasn't already and it will take care of itself w/o intervention. I did this by accident when I mixed up my B-vitamins that were all in blue labels thinking it was b-12 and I took too many.......

  11. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post

    If he mega dosed niacin for real, he would get the nastiest case of flushing that would be EXTREMELY uncomfortable and he would never do it again. Let him try it if he hasn't already and it will take care of itself w/o intervention. I did this by accident when I mixed up my B-vitamins that were all in blue labels thinking it was b-12 and I took too many.......
    I just lol'd at this, I can't even imagine what would be going through your mind when you're expecting a hunger spike from the B-12 but instead you start glowing red

  12. Quote Originally Posted by infraredline View Post
    I just lol'd at this, I can't even imagine what would be going through your mind when you're expecting a hunger spike from the B-12 but instead you start glowing red
    yeah it was not only extremely uncomfortable, but scary too lol. You think it will never end, and maybe you might die or something....and there is no going back and doing it over

  13. Quote Originally Posted by David Dunn View Post
    IMO and IMPE Cialis @5-10mg/d and 1.6g potassium nitrate had me at 117/63 while on some notoriously BP debilitating compounds. I was very happy to discover this. Of course EFA, FO, MCT etc are all healthy staples.

    Yikes.. why not just hop on pharma grade meds. I love my combination of Coreg/Enalapril, so much cheaper! I could not tolerate cialis daily, the stuffy nose just has me addicted to afrin.

    OP, Hawthorn Extract built up over time can function similar to an ace inhibitor they say, as well as celery seed extract functioning like a calcium channel blocker and mild diuretic.

    For someone eating a healthy diet and working out hard, lipids shouldn't be to hard to control. Valarian root and l-theanine can help stress related htn.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post
    yeah it was not only extremely uncomfortable, but scary too lol. You think it will never end, and maybe you might die or something....and there is no going back and doing it over
    I can confirm the "intolerability of the flush," as Coop put it. My doctor prescribed Niaspan, I believe, in an attempt to raise my HDL levels. The flush was wicked and extremely uncomfortable. I suffered through it two nights in a row, then gave up. Decided to forgo the pills and up the cardio.

    Monte

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