Pre-Contest Cutting Stack
- 11-27-2013, 06:39 PM
Pre-Contest Cutting Stack
This is my first post here on AM. Been looking around a lot and there seems to be a number of knowledgeable members around.
Anyways...I'm soon starting my pre-contest cut stack and currently have the following:
EC week 1-12
Forskolin95 week 1-12
dopadex week 4-12
or AOR orthocore
deciding between the following for non-stim pre-workout during the cut:
Does anyone have any suggestions to remove or add to this list?
ive been looking at MN Advanced (I've heard GMS and LCLT are recommended to stack with XF), Evomuse Ammo, and Evomuse CardioTryx.
(Diet and nutrition are in check. This will be my second contest prep)
- 11-27-2013, 09:28 PM
I'd also consider a GDA. I'm currently using Glycophase and that's all I've used outside of a couple bottles of N-Force. You're stack looks pretty good though. Maybe towards the end instead of EC try out some Yohimbine HCL + caffeine when fasted instead.
Oh, and another thing you may consider checking out is Nimbus Abyss Unparalleled. I'm about to start some of this too.
- 11-27-2013, 10:17 PM
I have been looking into GDAs, mainly Burn24 as well as SlinSane. Do you find they make a big difference?
I would like to run an ECY stack, but here in Canada, Yohimbine is illegal up here. A few retailers bring products with yohimbine in them in but no where's to get straight up Yohimbine.
11-27-2013, 10:20 PM
Ah, well then... that's a bummer. What about alpha-Yohimbine? I'm assuming it's still probably not allowed, but I'm not very privy on Canadian laws.
11-28-2013, 02:03 AM
if you can find Level II up there I would highly recommended it in your pre contest stack. The energy is amazing, the apatite suppressant is great, and focus is also a huge bonus. I have a few clients running it before fasted cardio and loving it.
I have been using it as a pre workout and ECA in the am and mid day. It goes really well if you are stim tolerant. If not, then Level II needs to be ramped up slowly. The stuff is ridiculously good.
As far as GDA, slin sane treated me really well. I have few girls who use it post workout only in the am with their largest carb meal and like it. I also have a few guys who have been using it along with PH cycles and it has really stepped up their cycle.
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11-28-2013, 02:19 AM
For a pre-contest GDA, you will want burn24. Grab it here on NP with one of the specials for $50
The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES
11-28-2013, 11:41 AM
11-28-2013, 11:42 AM
11-28-2013, 12:36 PM
Regarding GDA dosing (either Burn24 or Slin Sane), how would I go about taking my doses? I run a carb cycling diet (day 1 low carb, day 2 mid carb, day 3 high carb, day 4 high carb, then start over).
Directions for slin sane say to take 1 cap, 15 minutes prior to high carb pre-workout meal...easy enough on my mid and high carb days, trickier on my low carb days as I only take carbs with breakfast (which is not consumed prior to my workout) and post workout. I've read multiple reviews on here and other forums saying they take 3-6 of them a day with every meal.
Directions for Burn24 say take 2 caps 20-30 minutes before 3 meals a day. Nothing about carb levels with the meals, nothing regarding a pre-workout dose.
Just asking as I have been looking at running a GDA but wasn't sure exactly how to dose it properly and was wondering whether taking either of these products has less or more of a benefit on a carb cycling diet.
11-28-2013, 05:46 PM
11-28-2013, 05:56 PM
11-28-2013, 07:57 PM
11-29-2013, 12:39 AM
11-29-2013, 08:36 AM
As far as the non stim I love using Hemavol.
Also, during contest prep I like to male sure I have getting enough sleep. Lights out helped me a lot here.
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11-29-2013, 08:46 AM
From a BP standpoint, I don't believe Dopadex and EC should be combined.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, though.
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11-29-2013, 02:22 PM
Reading GDA threads for 3 years and still have no clue which is the best product on a bulk that transports carbs into the muscles instead of the fat tissue (improved glycogen storage).Dont want any carb blockers as in that case i prefer to eat less carbs
11-30-2013, 02:39 PM
intimidate srt for your cut, stack it with lights out....we all know how hard it could be to sleep when deprived of calories...but intimidate should help keep the muscles hard and detailed along with the amazing sleep during your prep
as far as non stim preworkout, hemavol and potassium nitrate would be nasty together
12-01-2013, 08:25 AM
12-02-2013, 03:19 PM
12-02-2013, 06:12 PM
Alphamax makes a great addition to a cutting cycle as it contains 75mg Arimistane plus 50mg of 95% Forskolin, really helping to harden you up and lean you out. As well it contains ingredients like Divanil, L-Dopa, ZMA, D3 to further booth test and help you hold onto more muscle. Nutraplanet is offering a deal where you buy an Alphamax and get a free Fitmax, a fat burning pre workout, that would be a great addition to your cutting cycle.
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12-05-2013, 05:06 AM
12-05-2013, 12:10 PM
I have also been researching Haleo's on point...I may substitute that for the Caffeine in my EC stack and get the benefit of the other ingredients in it as well.
12-05-2013, 10:32 PM
12-06-2013, 12:01 AM
12-06-2013, 09:40 AM
My other question was regarding taking my Dopadex and ZMA together before bed. Is it only the P5P form of Vitamin B6 that shouldn't be taken with L-Dopa supps or is it any form of B6? My ZMA uses Pyridoxine HCL and not P5P, so would I be ok with that?
12-07-2013, 10:38 PM
12-07-2013, 11:02 PM
I would add in some Iforce tt33 or some old style alpha-T2 and shift. For all 12 weeks and is it a natty show or NPC? What weight class?
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12-08-2013, 01:33 AM
12-09-2013, 09:41 AM
It's the local provincial show, Nova Scotia Amateur Bodybuilding Association. I'm competing in men's physique. It's not a tested show but I'm competing naturally.
I've made up my mind and my final stack looks like:
12 weeks out to day of the show
EC (twice per day)
PES Alphamine (Canadian/British version w/no yohimbine) (1 time per day, before HIIT)
AOR Mito Charger
8 weeks out adding in
PES Erase Pro
Creatine Mono (5g/day until 4 weeks out)
Green Tea Extract
I think this stack should treat me pretty well. I really wanted to add yohimbine to my stack but it's tough to get up here. If I'm able to track any AT2 down or bulk Y I'll be adding that in as well.
12-09-2013, 11:41 AM
12-09-2013, 11:49 AM
There are a few...my diet is dialed in so I like trying a few things just to get any kind of extra effect I can. My gaining phase is much more simple...the staples I listed, a stim based preworkout, and FOOOOOD lol.
And I forgot to add Cellucor Beta-BCAA to the list of my staples lol
12-09-2013, 11:57 AM
12-09-2013, 05:03 PM
12-10-2013, 08:56 PM
12-11-2013, 02:08 AM
This. I have some alpha t2 in addition to my tt33 on hand.
OP, recompadrol would be a solid addition, its the one gda i've used in all my preps; works very well. I would also opt for hemavol pre-workout because of the muscle fullness it brings on. The fullness will really help as you start to deplete and drop carbs.
12-11-2013, 02:58 AM
12-11-2013, 03:45 AM
12-11-2013, 03:48 AM
Dissociation of growth hormone and prolactin response to levodopa during pyridoxine administration.
AuthorsDelitala G, et al. Show all Journal
Biomedicine. 1977 Jul;27(6):219-22.
500 mg of levodopa was administered orally to 8 normal subjects and induced an increase of growth hormone (GH) and a decrease of prolactin (PRL) secretion. The levodopa-induced GH release was inhibited by an intravenous infusion of pyridoxine; on the contrary, the PRL response to levodopa was enhanced by pyridoxine infusion. This dissociation of GH and PRL responses to levodopa during pyridoxine infusion appears to be mediated by peripheral acceleration of the conversion of levodopa to dopamine. Since dopamine does not penetrate the blood-brain barrier, the enhanced PRL decrease observed during pyridoxine infusion might be explained only on the basis of a mechanism of action exerted by dopamine on extra blood-brain barrier sites.
L-Dopa + B6 = Less GH increase
L-Dopa + B6 = Greater Prolactin decrease.
Tell me again why dopadex would be better for Prolactin reduction?
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