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    Ordered 3, now that thats taken care of all i have to say is bring on the protein and citrus splash!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksandar37 View Post
    Do antioxidants impair MPS in general? I believe it is quite the opposite, especially in us old folks
    I thought that they impaired inflammatory response...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post

    I thought that they impaired inflammatory response...
    Only ones with anti-inflammatory effects. Things like Omega-3's, NSAIDS, Cissus, etc.

    Some antioxidants are designed for the workout time period, for example some GDA's which are directed to be taken with your post WO shake

    This new one being used by PES actually states in its write up that there is no conflicting MPS effects
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    Where could one see the ingredient profile?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alasel View Post
    Where could one see the ingredient profile?
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    Here is a little bit on lemon verbena for those of you who haven't hit PubMed yet lol.

    Effect of lemon verbena supplementation o... [Eur J Appl Physiol. 2011] - PubMed - NCBI

    Abstract
    Intense exercise is directly related to muscular damage and oxidative stress due to excessive reactive oxygen species (ROS) in both, plasma and white blood cells. Nevertheless, exercise-derived ROS are essential to regulate cellular adaptation to exercise. Studies on antioxidant supplements have provided controversial results. The purpose of this study was to determine the effect of moderate antioxidant supplementation (lemon verbena extract) in healthy male volunteers that followed a 90-min running eccentric exercise protocol for 21 days. Antioxidant enzymes activities and oxidative stress markers were measured in neutrophils. Besides, inflammatory cytokines and muscular damage were determined in whole blood and serum samples, respectively. Intense running exercise for 21 days induced antioxidant response in neutrophils of trained male through the increase of the antioxidant enzymes catalase, glutathione peroxidase and glutathione reductase. Supplementation with moderate levels of an antioxidant lemon verbena extract did not block this cellular adaptive response and also reduced exercise-induced oxidative damage of proteins and lipids in neutrophils and decreased myeloperoxidase activity. Moreover, lemon verbena supplementation maintained or decreased the level of serum transaminases activity indicating a protection of muscular tissue. Exercise induced a decrease of interleukin-6 and interleukin-1β levels after 21 days measured in basal conditions, which was not inhibited by antioxidant supplementation. Therefore, moderate antioxidant supplementation with lemon verbena extract protects neutrophils against oxidative damage, decreases the signs of muscular damage in chronic running exercise without blocking the cellular adaptation to exercise.

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    I highlighted the most important bit but the whole paragraph is pertinent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    Thank you. From a price point for the UK Ben, what do you think this will retail at approx? Also if one were to look at making tub last a little longer would 1 scoop be effective?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alasel View Post
    Thank you. From a price point for the UK Ben, what do you think this will retail at approx? Also if one were to look at making tub last a little longer would 1 scoop be effective?
    Our UK distributor has ordered some but the price point is essentially down to them. We could estimate it based on wholesale cost but they have to factor in shipping and import taxes which mean their price point isn't decided until they have it in their hands.

    In short, we don't know how much it will be from UK retailers yet.

    I personally wouldn't cut the dose, it is two scoops for a reason although I can't divulge the doses of the ingredients to back up my point lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    Our UK distributor has ordered some but the price point is essentially down to them. We could estimate it based on wholesale cost but they have to factor in shipping and import taxes which mean their price point isn't decided until they have it in their hands.

    In short, we don't know how much it will be from UK retailers yet.

    I personally wouldn't cut the dose, it is two scoops for a reason although I can't divulge the doses of the ingredients to back up my point lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post

    Can't wait to get my package!
    @bdcc I'll let you have the honors on this slow pitch
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    @bdcc I'll let you have the honors on this slow pitch
    lol, I saw it, racked my brains for a good joke and then held back.

    You could sense that? Me and you are like brothers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post

    lol, I saw it, racked my brains for a good joke and then held back.

    You could sense that? Me and you are like brothers.
    I had a pretty good feeling lol
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    That bdcc he crazy I never know what he a going to say
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    @bdcc I'll let you have the honors on this slow pitch
    I'm in the US by the way. Lulz. I wasn't stating that I am anticipating my package and living in the UK :PMaybe I should have just specified that I was taunting UK bros?
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    Taunting me for already having three tubs?

    Man, I hate the idea that I would own zero Amino IV.

    How does it feel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    Taunting me for already having three tubs? Man, I hate the idea that I would own zero Amino IV.How does it feel?
    Damn, I should have been even more specific. Taunting the average consumers in the UK that is :PWell played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    Taunting me for already having three tubs?

    Man, I hate the idea that I would own zero Amino IV.

    How does it feel?

    So mean Ben is very proud of his package that has been thoroughly examined by customs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksandar37 View Post

    So mean Ben is very proud of his package that has been thoroughly examined by customs.
    Examined? Or "sampled?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post

    Examined? Or "sampled?"
    Haha
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    If they sampled them it would have been courteous for the UK Border Agency to have left a note saying which flavour they preferred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    If they sampled them it would have been courteous for the UK Border Agency to have left a note saying which flavour they preferred.
    Lol. Maybe they were undecided.
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