- 01-15-2005, 08:21 PM
- 01-15-2005, 08:42 PM
I dunno, but I'd rather use Melatonin over nyquil. I don't know of anything "herbal" though.
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01-15-2005, 08:44 PM
01-15-2005, 10:22 PM
I never liked GABA by itself.....never really knocked me out.....but gave me pretty vivid dreams....but I combined it with 6mgs of Melatonin....that knocked me out the natural way....now I just go with the melatonin....I Love it
01-15-2005, 10:23 PM
01-15-2005, 10:45 PM
Doxylamine(Unisom) and diphenhydramine(Benadryl) are the two common OTC drugs. They work, but you build a tolerance after a few weeks, so melatonin is the best solution for chronic sleeplessness. It doesn't work for everyone though. There are a lot of herbal combo products at the healthfood store that have valerian and kava in them plus chamolile and a butch of others. Also DMAE help me to relax, but doesn't promote sleep, just vasodilation. I take 250mg every night.
01-15-2005, 10:59 PM
01-15-2005, 11:29 PM
01-15-2005, 11:38 PM
01-16-2005, 12:24 PM
Melatonin works wonders for me also. I wouldnt recommend taking it every night as I heard it can shut down the natural production of it. I usually take it for nights when I'm going to get more than normal sleep so I can get into that really deep sleep. The dreams are pretty damn nice on this stuff also.
01-16-2005, 01:52 PM
Valerian sucks, kava kava is crap. Never tried Theanine. 5-htp will only help you relax for about a half hour.Originally Posted by FunkMasterFlex
01-16-2005, 02:04 PM
I only take it if i really need it, which usually is no more then 2-3 times a week. I never get the vivid dreams though....Originally Posted by scott72
01-16-2005, 03:58 PM
For me, theanine doesn't discourage caffiene overstimulation like it's suppose to. It does seem to boost immunity a little. As far as melatonin, it's a MAOI, so vivid dreams or weird effects could occur. Really depends on the individual, and dose is the main variable IMO.
01-16-2005, 08:23 PM
me too, on the 3mg, although I was thinking of cutting that in half. I seem a little groggy in the morning and research I read says you shouldn't. Lower dose until you wake up rested AND revived. 3mg though definitely puts me out!Originally Posted by Wedgylx
01-16-2005, 08:51 PM
anything less than 2-3mg doesnt even get me to sleep but naturally use the smallest effective dose.Originally Posted by jeremiah1710
01-16-2005, 10:19 PM
Melatonin is probably one of my favorite supps (cheapest too). I take 6mg every night. Occasionally I will forget and I usually wake up 2-3 times during the night, but with melatonin its out like a light. Bobo posted a study a while back that showed 10mg of melatonin a night stimulates growth hormone secretion.
01-17-2005, 12:00 AM
ZMA makes me sleep like a baby, but I have friends who it doesn't do anything for. Good Kava can also help but for the money ZMA and/or Melatonin would be first.
01-17-2005, 12:44 AM
01-17-2005, 01:40 AM
HAHA, I had a girlfriend that used to respond well to tryptiphan too, before they banned it. You could probably do the same w/ 5-OH but you'd need at least 250-500mg. All I see is 50mg caps. That would get expensive.Originally Posted by big_D
01-18-2005, 11:35 AM
Bump on ZMA, that helps me get to sleep quicker when I'm on it. I've also used Melatonin before with good results.
01-18-2005, 07:49 PM
01-18-2005, 07:57 PM
01-18-2005, 07:57 PM
Pretty much every online supplement store, or dare I say if necessary go to GNC.Originally Posted by NevrEnuf
01-18-2005, 07:57 PM
01-18-2005, 08:49 PM
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