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    Quote Originally Posted by PrepNwa23 View Post
    I tend to stay away from phenibut and any products with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    1mg of melatonin and the amount of GABA it had wasn't really enough for me to be put to sleep by it but it did give me solid sleep once I was sleeping. Not a bad product at all, just don't expect it to put you to sleep.
    agreed. It may work for someone with really light sleep issues or first time using melatonin

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    Why?
    Personally I only use phenibut like once a week to help wind down. Using phenibut on a regular basis (like 4 or more times a week) causes tolerance and addiction. I hear the withdrawals from it are really terrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackWinging View Post
    Personally I only use phenibut like once a week to help wind down. Using phenibut on a regular basis (like 4 or more times a week) causes tolerance and addiction. I hear the withdrawals from it are really terrible.
    Ive used it fairly regularly (3-5 times a week) and never had any "withdraws" from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post

    Ive used it fairly regularly (3-5 times a week) and never had any "withdraws" from it.
    I have used it similarly to this. Staying in the 3 range more than the 5. No noticeable withdraws. I must say, if trouble sleeping is one then I have that a lot, so I bought phenibut before. It is a vicious cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    Ive used it fairly regularly (3-5 times a week) and never had any "withdraws" from it.
    Yeah I should have said it causes tolerance around that amount of time, then taking it for like a week straight can cause addiction. I'm pretty much going off of what I've seen others post when it comes to the addiction/withdrawal effects.
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    Phenibut has been well-documented for causing tolerance/dependence/withdrawal. It should be used on a need-only basis
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Phenibut has been well-documented for causing tolerance/dependence/withdrawal. It should be used on a need-only basis
    Yeah, so stick to Abyss Unparalleled or Sleephoria

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Phenibut has been well-documented for causing tolerance/dependence/withdrawal. It should be used on a need-only basis
    at what dosages ? Length of usage ,etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    9 weeks of usage ? I don't think anyone would recommend that
    How about the full text instead of fear mongering

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    9 weeks of usage ? I don't think anyone would recommend that
    How about the full text instead of fear mongering
    This is a case report. I'm not fear mongering. Phenibut should be used on a need-basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post

    Why?
    Everytime I've used it I wake up very foggy and a headache from hell. Just never really worked for me, not saying it couldn't help others. Just not for me is all.
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    I use optimum nution zma.its very very good.i sleep like a baby.in the he morning I literaly jump out of bed.that energetic and refreshed I am.aside from a few nightmares.i brilliant product. This is a supplement which work.and recommendation doesnt come iften
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post

    9 weeks of usage ? I don't think anyone would recommend that
    How about the full text instead of fear mongering
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    This is a case report. I'm not fear mongering. Phenibut should be used on a need-basis.
    Which is why I always recommend using a 1/2 dose of REM8.0 to start and taking breaks frequently. I personally recommend using no more than 4-5 days/week MAX
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSwanks View Post

    Which is why I always recommend using a 1/2 dose of REM8.0 to start and taking breaks frequently. I personally recommend using no more than 4-5 days/week MAX
    Oops... I've been taking it nightly and almost finished my first tub. Can't say I have noticed any ill effects, sleeping more solid and waking feeling refreshed. definitely don't feel addicted or like I need it, don't think it has affected me that way. I guess I should back off on my dosages anyways to be safe, I'm normally good about going by the directions I don't know how this one slipped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driven2lift View Post

    Oops... I've been taking it nightly and almost finished my first tub. Can't say I have noticed any ill effects, sleeping more solid and waking feeling refreshed. definitely don't feel addicted or like I need it, don't think it has affected me that way. I guess I should back off on my dosages anyways to be safe, I'm normally good about going by the directions I don't know how this one slipped.
    Yeah dial it down slowly. Or you might find you have a really hard time falling asleep without it. Its great stuff for sure, just have to limit yourself a little unfortunately.
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    Kind of afraid I will be a useless lethargic slug the first few days of my honeymoon. Don't want to fill up my luggage with supps and not sure what would be an issue to have in my luggage for passing security.

    Should have tapered down on a few things, I will be heading there cutting out sleep aids, GDA's with every carb meal, and roughly 1g caffeine + other stims daily, all cold turkey.

    Considering at least sticking in a bottle of SsV2 as it will be a hell of a cheat week
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driven2lift View Post
    Kind of afraid I will be a useless lethargic slug the first few days of my honeymoon. Don't want to fill up my luggage with supps and not sure what would be an issue to have in my luggage for passing security.

    Should have tapered down on a few things, I will be heading there cutting out sleep aids, GDA's with every carb meal, and roughly 1g caffeine + other stims daily, all cold turkey.

    Considering at least sticking in a bottle of SsV2 as it will be a hell of a cheat week
    Good luck with the no caffeine. Yikes! You shouldn't have any issues with supps and security
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    I use phenibut 2x per week, maybe 3 if I need it. Best sleep ever. No side effects and can sleep fine without it.
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    REM 8.0 hasn't worked very well for me. I only use it 4-5 times a week. Towards the bottom of the tub now and I wake up with a headache every time I take it.

    Ordered some Abyss. Hopefully that will work a bit better for me. I always have melatonin on back up too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiprsha666 View Post
    REM 8.0 hasn't worked very well for me. I only use it 4-5 times a week. Towards the bottom of the tub now and I wake up with a headache every time I take it.

    Ordered some Abyss. Hopefully that will work a bit better for me. I always have melatonin on back up too.
    Full scoop? Two scoops? I would recommend if you are using REM 8.0 at a full scoop, lower it. There's a lot of friggin phenibut in there which can be pretty rough when you wake up from it.
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    Full scoop. A half scoop could stop the headaches, but a full scoop isn't effectively helping me sleep, so a half scoop probably would be even less effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiprsha666 View Post
    Full scoop. A half scoop could stop the headaches, but a full scoop isn't effectively helping me sleep, so a half scoop probably would be even less effective.
    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Full scoop? Two scoops? I would recommend if you are using REM 8.0 at a full scoop, lower it. There's a lot of friggin phenibut in there which can be pretty rough when you wake up from it.
    Quote Originally Posted by hiprsha666 View Post
    REM 8.0 hasn't worked very well for me. I only use it 4-5 times a week. Towards the bottom of the tub now and I wake up with a headache every time I take it.

    Ordered some Abyss. Hopefully that will work a bit better for me. I always have melatonin on back up too.
    You may be building up a tolerance to the beneficial effects of the phenibut. Try taking some time off from using phenibut based sleep aids and then give REM another shot at a 1/2 dose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSwanks View Post
    You may be building up a tolerance to the beneficial effects of the phenibut. Try taking some time off from using phenibut based sleep aids and then give REM another shot at a 1/2 dose.
    Definitely taking a break from it. This is my first sleep aid other than melatonin. Even when I first started taking it, at full scoop, I did not find it effective. Maybe it's just me because it has great reviews from almost everyone else, which is why I tried it in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSwanks View Post
    You may be building up a tolerance to the beneficial effects of the phenibut. Try taking some time off from using phenibut based sleep aids and then give REM another shot at a 1/2 dose.
    I'm ok with it now. I found my sweet spot. Lulz. Using it only around 4 times a week as well.
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    i use nimbus abyss now. i used ressurect pm from ronnie, and lights out from iforce before. nimbus is by far the best for me, i sleep great on it ! 2 caps about 30 mins before bed.
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