SS Shift + PES Alpha-T2

[mrharris]

Could I stack Synthetic Supplements Shift with PES Alpha T-2 (new version) for 8 weeks?

Also, if I wanted to, could I Add SNS X-gels to this stack? Or you think it would be better to wait for another time?

I'll be using a combination of these as a bridge between my natty test stacks.

Also, how long can I use SNS creatinol-o-phosphate and agmatine for? Does it need to be cycled?

 

[kissdadookie]

From what I've been told, yes. As for dosing protocol, it was suggested to dose as follows:

2 Alpha T-2 first thing in the morning.
1 Alpha T-2 + 1 Shift a few hours later.
2 Shift in the evening.

 

[mrharris]

Both shift and alpha-t2 have the same instructions as far as dosing. you're saying if using both, dose it this way instead?

 

[kissdadookie]

Both shift and alpha-t2 have the same instructions as far as dosing. you're saying if using both, dose it this way instead?

That is what was suggested to me by one of their reps

So you can stack them or run them solo. Up to you. I'm actually going to be running Shift + AT2 next month for 60 days along with Forskolin-95. Already have the Shift + AT2 sitting on the shelf, still need to order the Forskolin-95 since at the time, that was sold out.

 

[bolt10]

From what I've been told, yes. As for dosing protocol, it was suggested to dose as follows:

2 Alpha T-2 first thing in the morning.
1 Alpha T-2 + 1 Shift a few hours later.
2 Shift in the evening.

They are fine to use together and that is a perfectly acceptable dosing scheme.

If you choose to run X-gels I would make sure to pick up some GMS and Carnitine to run with it all pre-workout. There are no issues with running Shift, AT2, and X-gels all at once, but I would recommend at least 4 weeks of just Shift and AT2 before using X-gels to accurately assess how effective they are themselves.

 

[mrharris]

thanks guys. what about COS/agmatine? do they need to be cycled?

 

[Aleksandar37]

thanks guys. what about COS/agmatine? do they need to be cycled?

My opinion is no, but you might find some that disagree and "cycle" absolutely everything.

 

[bolt10]

My opinion is no, but you might find some that disagree and "cycle" absolutely everything.

I'll be the "I cycle everything" guy.

Agmatine is in a lot of pre-workouts and therefore I use it for pretty extended periods (and usually dose it pre-carb meal daily too). I do try to take a break for a month once or twice a year from it though.

With COP, I only have used it in Protocol and therefore cycle it just when I don't use that pre-workout.

 

[alwaysfirst]

I do 2 AT2 and 1 Shift first thing and then 2 Shift and 1 AT2 midday