- 01-10-2005, 10:58 PM
I've been very excited about starting to take forskolin but have had trouble finding a good bulk extract. I always use 1fast400 for my bulk powders but had to go with Beyond's ForsLean extract as it was the best of the recommendations I found at this the best BB forum I've found (seriously guys, this forum's as good as it gets). Anyway, a trip over to Avant and I hear from everybody that BAC's ForsLean is garbage because it doesn't smell like mint (because Forskohlii is a member of the mint family) and Vitamin Shoppe's is the better choice. But VS's is the same patented ForsLean as BAC's (or so it appears to me). So, BAC's 10% forskolin extract (50 grams for $18!) is the best I've found and I'm basically trust wondering what you guys would do as I trust ya'll more than anyone other forum. Keep up the awesome work Bobo and everybody else. Also, let me know what ya'll think of forskolin for all it's reputed benefits (not just body composition).
- 01-11-2005, 12:35 PM
Just wanted to add that after a couple hundred pages into a Google search I found another viable alternative at www.ancientway.com which sells a 10% extract for $0.25 a gram. Damn fine deal that is. I'm awaiting a response from the guy about who supplies him the extract. Anybody know anything about the site? Anybody care out there?
01-12-2005, 09:08 AM
I can't ever seem to get a response to anything. I know somebody knows something. Aren't you guys more interested in forskolin?
01-12-2005, 09:48 AM
...umm, no not really, sorryOriginally Posted by TheCrownedOne
I have tried several products with forskolin in them and have not been overly impressed, but I am more curious as to what dosage you are thinking of, as this may be a better indicator of performance. Do you feel that higher doses are need of forskolin than are usually included (which may not surprise me)?
01-12-2005, 10:03 AM
In the studies I've read, a daily dose of at least 50mg of actual forskolin is necessary for long-term noticeable results. I feel that forskolin should be approached with the thought that it can serve as a useful adjunct to proper training and timing as it's only real effect on body-composition will probably be the freeing of fatty acids for use as energy or as an energy substrate. I figure it could help out after good intensity sprinting exercise coupled with a healthy dose of low intensity exercise. There's a great article posted here under the title "cAMPHIBOLIC ARTICLE SERIES" by kojie that details the many uses of forskolin.
01-12-2005, 10:06 AM
I would agree that if the main purpose served is to release fatty acids, then low intensity, long duration cardio should be used to burn these, otherwise it will be pointless IMO.
01-15-2005, 11:05 PM
For anyone who cares, I've received both the Ancientway.com and BAC forskolin and have the following to say: BAC's has a powerful smell, but not anything resembling mint. It is a light brown color, and if you have any concern for your sense of taste you had better cap it because it tastes astoundingly bad, like freezerburned *******. Ancientway.com's (who have great service and thousands of chinese herbs btw) is much darker and has a more subdued smell, which is entirely unlike BAC's and almost resembles mint, and the price is better. So there you go. If and when I begin to notice the effects of the two brands I'll report them here for those who care.
01-16-2005, 12:59 AM
Thanks for the info!
I have used For. at high doses, and felt my body temperature rise. I like the stuff. Even in caps I bought, it has a strong odor, but not like mint. Very aromatic. The color of the powder was tan.
01-17-2005, 10:06 PM
This stuff is recommended for T3 PCT, so this is helpful. Thanks.Originally Posted by TheCrownedOne
01-17-2005, 10:12 PM
Yes, indeed, re: T3 PCT. Forskolin + 7-Keto (Ab-Solved or FL-7) + Iodine + maybe Guggul.
BUT REGARDLESS-->you should always ramp down T3.
01-21-2005, 10:37 AM
I have a little insight on a forskolin study done by a grad student waiting to be published. 60mg a day of extract was trully impressive!Originally Posted by jweave23
The problem with cAMP stimulating hormones is companies are not using enouph. Forskolin main function is stimulating cAMP. cAMP is responsible for many process in the body that bodybuilder want. The arguement with stimulating cAMP was that forskolin or any other cAMP stimulating drug would not elevate levels a significantly to cause noticeable effects.
My clients have seen tremendous results just with forskolin and great results with the added green tea.
I suggest you read the cAMPHIBOLIC series at SynergyMuscle.com. You will see forskolin effects are far beyond liberating fat(actually liberates fat and raises metabolism). If you liberate fat and sit on the couch, you will not lose weight. IF you liberate fat and raise metabolism, you will lose significant amounts of weight with excersise. With forskolin, you could sit on the coach and lose weight but not reccomended:}
01-21-2005, 11:02 AM
01-21-2005, 11:14 AM
cAMPHIBOLIC which is our product has over 60mg if your using 6 caps a day(a bottle contains over 180 caps but label list 140..was not a mistake just an additional perk and what other supplement company fills the product to the top). The rule of thumb with green tea is to get 300mg of polyphenols.Originally Posted by rrgg
01-27-2005, 05:55 AM
01-27-2005, 06:29 AM
oh excuse my ignorance but is 60mg, 60 milligrams as in 1,000 milligrams=1 gram???
Also, the study says 60mg per day but it doesn't mention 10 or 20% extract.
01-27-2005, 09:33 AM
Yes Salv you’re right about the 60mg is as in 1000mg = 1 gram. When the studies say forskolin they mean the actual forskolin extracted from coleus forskohlii, so they’re sorta two different things. I can’t honestly say what effect the forskolin is having on my fat loss as I starting it when I starting eating right. Since I started taking it I’ve been eating strictly perfect: whole grains (like lots of Uncle Sam cereal, wheat germ, steel cut oats, but NO flour of any kind), salmon salmon and more salmon, whole eggs (you gotta eat the whole egg to get the whole protein), lots of milk, and vegetables. I suppose I’ll get a much better idea of its effect when I run out. It’s pretty funny actually because I’ve done cycles of T3, Clen, Tri-Max, and even DNP and have never had better success than when I started eating right and sprinting (but always weight training of course). As it stands, I see no reason NOT to take forskolin simply because of its other healthful effects outside of stimulating fat loss. But props to Loki on his mindandmuscle mag articles on sprinting!
01-27-2005, 04:06 PM
03-02-2005, 06:00 PM
crownedone - which supplier are you using? any updates on forskolin effects? i am planning to run it @ 100mg+Originally Posted by TheCrownedOne
anyone know why it would be better for coming off T3 instead of while on it?
03-02-2005, 06:20 PM
I've still got my supplies from Beyond a Century and AncientWay.com. I quit taking it a few weeks ago because I wanted to see the effects without it. I was only taking BAC's when I was taking some so maybe theirs isn't any good, but I can't say much for its benefits on fat loss. I'll try again before long and remember that every body is different and will respond differently so it's worth a shot.
03-02-2005, 10:59 PM
03-02-2005, 11:10 PM
So are the concerns about cAMP inducing prostate hyperplasia not a real concern. I remember that canines were given forskolin and it caused an increase in AE, the PSA specific to canines.
03-03-2005, 11:37 AM
03-12-2005, 12:43 AM
03-20-2005, 12:10 AM
03-20-2005, 06:46 PM
Just started taking it again, mostly right before I go to bed. I am hopeful. From what I can tell, BAC's isn't worth much. I'd go with Ancientway.com's.
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