uh huh. havent yet to seen a "weight-gainer" (calorie dense) mix from any manufacturer that has a good source of carbs. Majority will use dextrose and maltodextrine to fill a good portion of the cals to make it so easily chug down. both cytogain and nlarge fits under these calories. only thing going for the two is that both can be had for fairly cheap (nlarge 10lb for low 30s) but whatchu really want? a gainer made from the goods you put together (protein powder, oatmeal or rolled oats, flax and/or peanut butter, milk...) or a premixed one that does have the calories, but most coming from stuff you dont want anyways? go hit the links under yj's post and you be good. As for taste...nlarge is pretty good (hmmm, with all the malto in there, not too suprised) however a homemade gainer can taste as good or better,....just get a protein powder you like. Sage